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Old Thu Dec 24, 2009, 04:20pm
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I find the objection to the thumbs on a 30 interesting. Around here everybody uses the thumbs. But in the past couple of weeks I have begun using the proper mechanic for this (ironically I'm making the change as part of conscious effort to stop mixing mechanics from different levels). I'll tell you what, it just doesn't feel right. I need to try this in the mirror and see if it looks as awkward as it feels. If I can't make it look good, I'm gonna have to go back to the thumbs.
Basketball is a game of finesse....not for one who is all thumbs.
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Old Thu Dec 24, 2009, 11:52pm
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That would be why I ref and no longer play.
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Old Fri Dec 25, 2009, 10:21am
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You said that just so I could grit my teeth huh? I was watching a game the other night. A player gets the ball near the post on the other side of the paint from the lead. The kid makes an up-and-under move - tweet, and one - from the lead. [Grrrrrr] It wasn't a play that the C couldn't clearly see. I ask him about it after the game and he says, "It was right in front of me." So, I ask how it could be in front of him when the moved started outside the paint on the other side of the lane. He still says it was right in front of him even though it wasn't. He walks away and his partner tells me, "He was doing that the whole game." I will be discussing this with his crew chiefs, who happen to be my friends.

I called a foul in my first game of the year as Lead on a play that was on the other side of the basket from me. I saw a DVD of the game and I absolutely got the call wrong. It was a clean block (which I couldn't see from my position) and with a little bit of incidental contact down low. I learned my lesson for the season.
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Old Fri Dec 25, 2009, 11:07am
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I still work with a dude who after every "jump ball" still feels it necessary to point and declare the numbers of the two opposing players that will be "jumping it up" He has even asked me for clarification to make sure he gets the two players correct. Then after all that proceeds to go to the arrow. Drives me crazy.
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Old Fri Dec 25, 2009, 03:07pm
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I still work with a dude who after every "jump ball" still feels it necessary to point and declare the numbers of the two opposing players that will be "jumping it up".
That's because you want to be sure that the two players involved jump, rather than having a tall "ringer" switch with one of the "real" jumpers... Wait a minute... Never mind.

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Old Fri Dec 25, 2009, 04:19pm
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Couldn't agree more!

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The brushing of the palms together to indicate that it was a clean blocked shot. Grrrr.
I had this during a game. Lead made the "clean block shot" signal while the trail called a foul. I explained to the official why this is a bad mechanic. We now have two officials with two different calls. One has a foul, one has a blocked shot.

It's like two umpires in softball making a call at the same base, one safe and one out!

If you don't have a foul, then don't raise your fist! To me this is just an attempt to get everyone off your back for not making a call on a clean block.
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Old Fri Dec 25, 2009, 04:47pm
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To me this is just an attempt to get everyone off your back for not making a call on a clean block.
That's exactly what it is.
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Old Fri Dec 25, 2009, 04:52pm
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HS or lower officials using NBA signals.

A few years ago, I was at an 8th grade girls game where the official used the NBA "Loose Ball Foul" signal. I had to resist the urge to ask if that meant we also had defensive three seconds.
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Old Fri Dec 25, 2009, 06:27pm
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I would like to see a signal for basket interference- the NBA has one.

Our association permits the 2 hand point. I don't have the IAABO book infront of me so I can't recall whether they do or not.

point with 2 fingers or a full hand, if that is the weakest part of an officials game I think they are doing just fine.
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Old Fri Dec 25, 2009, 07:28pm
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The NBA "Loose Ball Foul" signal. I had to resist the urge to ask if that meant we also had defensive three seconds.
How about, "Three to make two."?
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Old Sat Dec 26, 2009, 09:54am
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How about, "Three to make two."?
LOVED that rule. It didn't help Billy McGinnis though. Playoff game - missed all 3 and I think one was an air ball.
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Old Sat Dec 26, 2009, 10:07am
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Loved that rule.
College players only get two to make two. High school players only get two to make two. Middle school players only get two to make two. Fourth graders only get two to make two. Why did some of the best basketball players in the world need three shots to make two? Rick Barry, Calvin Murphy, and Bill Sharman never needed three to make two.
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Old Sat Dec 26, 2009, 11:46am
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Summary of PET PEEVES (from previous post)

A Consensus of Non-Fed Signal Pet Peeves
Universal (or nearly so) to Everyone’s Area, Region, Planet, and Universe

1. Upward circling finger when free throw fails to hit the rim
2. Blocking foul signal that looks like the chicken dance
3. Over-the-back signal that looks like Superman flying
4. Timeout signal using a T motion
5. Brushing of palms together to indicate a clean blocked shot
6. Reporting numbers to table with two hands
7. No stop/start clock with raised open hand
8. Directional point angled toward the sky
9. Choppy, short visible counts
10. Double personal foul signal to report a full timeout
11. Thirty second timeout signal pointing thumbs to shoulders with pinkies out
12. Hammering the fists on hips for a blocking foul
13. Travel signal for a throw-in designated spot violation
14. Lazy little fist bump to start the clock
15. Running hand up and down the line to indicate out-of-bounds violation
16. Safe signal to communicate no foul
17. Commonly indicating with two fingers that the goal is for two points, not three
18. Pointing “on the floor” to indicate the player has not started his shooting motion
19. Inbounding and covering side of mouth like coughing when blowing whistle
20. Frankenstein Creeping Death/Zombie signal for “over the back”
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21. Partner not using any signal at all and allowing game to go into overtime.
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Old Sat Dec 26, 2009, 11:59am
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Hammering the fists on hips for a blocking foul.
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Do I have to turn in my patch?
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