Bonehead call

[Jim Henry]

Sort of happened to me last night.

Visitor's coach is yelling "5-out, 5-out" but I hear "Time Out." It was his last time out with about 1:30 to go in game. They are up by 10 points.

He gives me a strange look and I said "Coach that's your last time out." Scorer says, "Coach said 5 out." Nevertheless he got a time out. Next time down the court he yells "6 out." I'm not confused this time!

Lesson learned (I hope)... Coach needs to use better commands and I need to look at the coach before I call the TO.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Jim Henry

Sort of happened to me last night.

Visitor's coach is yelling "5-out, 5-out" but I hear "Time Out." It was his last time out with about 1:30 to go in game. They are up by 10 points.

He gives me a strange look and I said "Coach that's your last time out." Scorer says, "Coach said 5 out." Nevertheless he got a time out. Next time down the court he yells "6 out." I'm not confused this time!

Lesson learned (I hope)... Coach needs to use better commands and I need to look at the coach before I call the TO.

I have been fooled by the "5 Out" play as well. But in this case, if you really just misheard the coach and he never actually did request a timeout, and he doesn't want one, you can just play on at POI. Don't charge the guy for a timeout because you can't hear.

[mathuc]

Originally Posted by Jim Henry

Sort of happened to me last night.

Visitor's coach is yelling "5-out, 5-out" but I hear "Time Out." It was his last time out with about 1:30 to go in game. They are up by 10 points.

He gives me a strange look and I said "Coach that's your last time out." Scorer says, "Coach said 5 out." Nevertheless he got a time out. Next time down the court he yells "6 out." I'm not confused this time!

Lesson learned (I hope)... Coach needs to use better commands and I need to look at the coach before I call the TO.

I've had that happen before. You should not charge him with a time out because of your error (unless he requests one during the dead ball time). Own up to it and be honest about it. ESPECIALLY since your scorer confirmed that he was not requesting a time out...

[Jim Henry]

Originally Posted by mathuc

I've had that happen before. You should not charge him with a time out because of your error (unless he requests one during the dead ball time). Own up to it and be honest about it. ESPECIALLY since your scorer confirmed that he was not requesting a time out...

I actaully think I would of done this. But he did not say a thing to me; he just took the time out. The way it was going with this guy, (first game was an A game and I gave him a T) I was surprised he didn't complain. But his B team was winning and it was almost over.

[mbyron]

Everybody's had this happen. I would not force a time out on the coach if he didn't request one: it's an IW, go to POI and play on.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Everybody's had this happen. I would not force a time out on the coach if he didn't request one: it's an IW, go to POI and play on.

5.8.3 SITUATION E: A1 is dribbling the ball in his/her backcourt when: (a) the
Team B head coach requests and is erroneously granted a time-out by an official;
or (b) the Team A head coach is yelling “side out” offensive instructions to his/her
team and the official stops play believing the coach requested a time-out. RULING:
In (a), Team B is entitled to use the time-out since it was requested and
granted; once granted it cannot be revoked and is charged to Team B. All privileges
and rights permitted during a charged time-out are available to both teams.
Play will resume with a Team A throw-in nearest to where play was stopped. In
(b), an accidental whistle has occurred. Team A was not requesting a time-out,
and therefore, should not be granted or charged with one. Play is resumed at the
point of interruption. (4-36-1; 4-36-2a)

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Jim Henry

Sort of happened to me last night.

Visitor's coach is yelling "5-out, 5-out" but I hear "Time Out." It was his last time out with about 1:30 to go in game. They are up by 10 points.

He gives me a strange look and I said "Coach that's your last time out." Scorer says, "Coach said 5 out." Nevertheless he got a time out. Next time down the court he yells "6 out." I'm not confused this time!

Lesson learned (I hope)... Coach needs to use better commands and I need to look at the coach before I call the TO.

Had a coach a few years back at the JV level tell me before the game that he had a play called "Tide Out" and that it might sound like "Time Out". I wish he would have listened to himself and realized that he was not making things easy on himself. Obviously, it had been a problem before and he did not change the name of the play.

[mathuc]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Had a coach a few years back at the JV level tell me before the game that he had a play called "Tide Out" and that it might sound like "Time Out". I wish he would have listened to himself and realized that he was not making things easy on himself. Obviously, it had been a problem before and he did not change the name of the play.

in that case you should tell him that based on that I may not hear him ask for a legit time out... so don't get mad at me when I don't give it to you... you're calling a play - so I would strongly suggest you change it or I'm probably going to miss your request. Merry Christmas!

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by mathuc

in that case you should tell him that based on that I may not hear him ask for a legit time out... so don't get mad at me when I don't give it to you... you're calling a play - so I would strongly suggest you change it or I'm probably going to miss your request. Merry Christmas!

I figured if he looked stupid long enough he would figure it out on his own. I am not going to get into discussions about his play names. Actually, the JVB coach with the play called "Fuschia" was worse. I am sure his players cringed every time he called it.