Throwing Out a Fan.....

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by just another ref

One problem. You can't do that.



Crowd Control? Isn't that you?

At that time, I was working as scoreboard/timer, so that was not my jurisdiction.

What caused the comment about remove or forfeit was due to what the guy said, the reporting official, as well as the table could hear him although he was 40-50 feet away. The home coach just sat there shaking his head at the comment, as the home coach heard it as well. Basically, the guy was, every other word, using expletives/colorful metaphors. Considering, he did call the one official a mf 2x dumb donkey.

What if they just ejected that player whose father was causing the problems?

When she fouled before the incident it was her 4th foul of the game.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by chseagle

What if they just ejected that player whose father was causing the problems?

Nope. You can't punish a player because of a fan, even if that fan is the player's parent.

The only thing an official can do is go to game management and ask that the offender be removed. If game management can't (or won't) remedy the situation, suspend the game and head to the official's room. Then get on the horn with the assignor/supervisor/etc.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Nope. You can't punish a player because of a fan, even if that fan is the player's parent.

The only thing an official can do is go to game management and ask that the offender be removed. If game management can't (or won't) remedy the situation, suspend the game and head to the official's room. Then get on the horn with the assignor/supervisor/etc.

I was figuring that the player couldn't be punished for actions beyond their control. Just like, technically as everyone on here says, a coach can't be punished for the actions of spectators. Just wanted the clarification.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chseagle

I was figuring that the player couldn't be punished for actions beyond their control. Just like, technically as everyone on here says, a coach can't be punished for the actions of spectators. Just wanted the clarification.

Who said this? Just so you know, there is a rule which gives us (the officials) authority to call a technical on the team if their spectators get out of hand. It's to be used sparingly, and carefully, but it's there.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Who said this? Just so you know, there is a rule which gives us (the officials) authority to call a technical on the team if their spectators get out of hand. It's to be used sparingly, and carefully, but it's there.

I did leave it open-ended with loopholes possible that a coach could get T'd due to actions/comments from spectators.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by chseagle

I did leave it open-ended with loopholes possible that a coach could get T'd due to actions/comments from spectators.

Not the coach. Just the team.

[mutantducky]

going on the court kick them out.
racism or threats, drunk
But other than that I'm not kicking out fans and not for a one-time thing as well. They better earn it. Warn the admin people and if they keep it up then kick them out. Otherwise refs and coaches shouldn't be bothering with crowd control. Unless it is Disco Demolition Night in Chicago.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

going on the court kick them out.
racism or threats, drunk
But other than that I'm not kicking out fans and not for a one-time thing as well. They better earn it. Warn the admin people and if they keep it up then kick them out. Otherwise refs and coaches shouldn't be bothering with crowd control. Unless it is Disco Demolition Night in Chicago.

But you cannot do that remember. Someone said you have no authority. You must allow those things to continue in your games and you are powerless.

Peace