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Old Wed Dec 09, 2009, 04:50pm
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Concerning the intermission between quarters, when is the minute supposed to start?

When the teams are at their benches? When the buzzer sounds, ending the quarter?

I know when time-outs are called, the clock doesn't start until normally the teams are at their benches, as that's when the reporting official says to start the clock/timer.
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Old Wed Dec 09, 2009, 04:53pm
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Good question. Off the top of my head, I'd say treat it like a TO and start when the get to the benches. Only give them a reasonable amount of time, though; if B1 is lingering on the other side of the court flirting with a cheerleader, don't wait for her.
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...if B1 is lingering on the other side of the court flirting with a cheerleader, don't wait for her.
Or B1 for that matter.
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Old Thu Dec 10, 2009, 08:40am
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if B1 is lingering on the other side of the court flirting with a cheerleader, don't wait for her.
... all permutations possible here.
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... all permutations possible here.
WHat about U1?
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WHat about U1?
Here in FL it might be grounds for dispossessing U1 of his level 2 screening card.
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cheagle,

I have to tell you, its a real red flag for me if the table approaches me about issues that should not be questioned. If I'm the R, and that happens, I will quickly call my partners together and reassign the U2 for the center jump. That way, everyone (including annoying table person) thinks HE's the R)
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 03:40pm
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cheagle,

I have to tell you, its a real red flag for me if the table approaches me about issues that should not be questioned. If I'm the R, and that happens, I will quickly call my partners together and reassign the U2 for the center jump. That way, everyone (including annoying table person) thinks HE's the R)
Well it would probably get a laugh out of someone if that did happen. At least, it's not like Hockey were the ref has the orange bands around the arms.

I was just curious as I hadn't actually heard anything about how the intermissions need to be timed, & was just doing what I was thinking was correct procedure. Just trying to do a CYOA/CMOA.
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Old Wed Dec 09, 2009, 08:03pm
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Concerning the intermission between quarters, when is the minute supposed to start?
As soon as the previous period ends.
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Old Thu Dec 10, 2009, 01:53am
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As soon as the previous period ends.
Not that I doubt you, but is there a citation on this?
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Old Thu Dec 10, 2009, 02:35am
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Not that I doubt you, but is there a citation on this?
The main timing rule is 5-5-1, but the following play rulings clarify that the horn ends the period and that the intermission has begun.
Bob is fully correct.

10.4.1 SITUATION C: After the horn sounds to end the first half, A1 removes
his/her jersey near the team bench. RULING: A technical foul is charged to A1 and
an indirect technical foul is charged to the head coach; A1 is considered bench
personnel in this situation. (10-4-1h)

4.34.2 SITUATION: The horn sounds to end the third quarter. As the teams are
heading to their respective benches, team members A1 and B1 verbally taunt one
another. RULING: Double technical foul charged to A1 and B1. During the intermission
between quarters, all team members are bench personnel. Both head
coaches are indirectly charged with technical fouls and lose their coaching box privileges.
Play will resume at the point of interruption, which is an alternating-possession
arrow throw-in, to begin the fourth quarter. (10-4-1c Penalty; 10-5-1a)

2006-07 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations
SITUATION 4: The horn sounds to end the third quarter. As the teams are heading to their respective benches, team members A1 and B1 verbally taunt one another. RULING: Double technical foul charged to A1 and B1. During the intermission between quarters, all team members are bench personnel. Both head coaches are indirectly charged with technical fouls and lose their coaching box privileges. Play will resume at the point of interruption, which is an alternating-possession arrow throw-in to begin the fourth quarter. (4-34-2; 10-4-1c Penalty)
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What I'll have to start doing then, is before the 1st game starts on Saturday is ask the Floor officials how they want it done so I can correspond with how they want things ran.

I have been doing the timing like how the timing was done for time-outs (reporting official waited for both teams to be in huddle & said to start), with no complaints.

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The main timing rule is 5-5-1, but the following play rulings clarify that the horn ends the period and that the intermission has begun.
Bob is fully correct.

10.4.1 SITUATION C: After the horn sounds to end the first half, A1 removes
his/her jersey near the team bench. RULING: A technical foul is charged to A1 and
an indirect technical foul is charged to the head coach; A1 is considered bench
personnel in this situation. (10-4-1h)

4.34.2 SITUATION: The horn sounds to end the third quarter. As the teams are
heading to their respective benches, team members A1 and B1 verbally taunt one
another. RULING: Double technical foul charged to A1 and B1. During the intermission
between quarters, all team members are bench personnel. Both head
coaches are indirectly charged with technical fouls and lose their coaching box privileges.
Play will resume at the point of interruption, which is an alternating-possession
arrow throw-in, to begin the fourth quarter. (10-4-1c Penalty; 10-5-1a)

2006-07 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations
SITUATION 4: The horn sounds to end the third quarter. As the teams are heading to their respective benches, team members A1 and B1 verbally taunt one another. RULING: Double technical foul charged to A1 and B1. During the intermission between quarters, all team members are bench personnel. Both head coaches are indirectly charged with technical fouls and lose their coaching box privileges. Play will resume at the point of interruption, which is an alternating-possession arrow throw-in to begin the fourth quarter. (4-34-2; 10-4-1c Penalty)
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What I'll have to start doing then, is before the 1st game starts on Saturday is ask the Floor officials how they want it done so I can correspond with how they want things ran.

I have been doing the timing like how the timing was done for time-outs (reporting official waited for both teams to be in huddle & said to start), with no complaints.
Why would you ask the game officials how they want the clock run as opposed to simply following the rules as written in the book?

Of course, if you asked me, I'd tell you to start the intermission timer as soon as possible. The break between quarters is really a waste of time for the officials as we just stand there doing nothing, and an extra time-out for the teams. I would prefer playing two halves as some states are beginning to do. I hope that we will see a rules change in the near future making that national.
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This way I get the clarification from them what the WIAA Regulation is. I realize after reading all the posts on here that the different state associations do have some rules variances, though most are word-for-word with NFHS.

Also so that I know that running on the same page as the floor officials. The coaches may not like it but c'est la vie.

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Why would you ask the game officials how they want the clock run as opposed to simply following the rules as written in the book?

Of course, if you asked me, I'd tell you to start the intermission timer as soon as possible. The break between quarters is really a waste of time for the officials as we just stand there doing nothing, and an extra time-out for the teams. I would prefer playing two halves as some states are beginning to do. I hope that we will see a rules change in the near future making that national.

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Old Thu Dec 10, 2009, 07:46pm
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Why would you ask the game officials how they want the clock run as opposed to simply following the rules as written in the book?
Here in the Land of Steady Habits, at halftime, we put 9:00 on the clock, and tell the timer to get "everybody" at the 3:00 mark. When the horn goes off after the 9:00 goes by, the timer is instructed to put 1:00 on the clock. At the 0:15 mark, the "first horn" sounds, followed at 0:00 by the final horn, at which point we're ready to start the third period. We've probably been doing this, as a state, for ten, or fifteen, years.
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