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Old Mon Dec 07, 2009, 10:20am
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what are your thoughts on a false multiple foul and how it might relate to this sit? at least one of the attributes of a multiple foul is missing. re:against the same opponent
The real answer is simple. Just determine which was first. Penalize it. In that case the other is to be ignored since it happened during a dead ball.

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Old Mon Dec 07, 2009, 12:27pm
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Do you think that this is the first time that someone has posed this question? Do you think that I have never given any thought to this situation before?

I recall there being a previous thread on this situation on this forum. One of the questions that I posed in trying to help us determine how to properly handle it was to consider what to do if Team B had five team fouls when B1 fouled A1 and at the exact same time B3 fouled A3. Now penalizing both fouls would result in there being seven team fouls against B, so which player from Team A gets awarded the 1-and-1?

As I've previously written the NFHS offers no solution.
do you think that maybe I did not see the other posts. do you think I may actualy want to here your thoughts on this. Everyone is not out to get you. thanks for your past sit. I brings up a good one I had never thought of.
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The real answer is simple. Just determine which was first. Penalize it. In that case the other is to be ignored since it happened during a dead ball.

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Unless the first foul was against a shooter.
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Unless the first foul was against a shooter.
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Old Mon Dec 07, 2009, 08:16pm
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...consider what to do if Team B had five team fouls when B1 fouled A1 and at the exact same time B3 fouled A3. Now penalizing both fouls would result in there being seven team fouls against B, so which player from Team A gets awarded the 1-and-1?
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Award FTs to A1 or A3?
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You think the sixth foul puts you in the bonus?? Yikes!
No, I think that you don't read the posts very carefully.
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Old Mon Dec 07, 2009, 10:32pm
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No, I think that you don't read the posts very carefully.
I went back to the OP, which did not specify how many.

I've forgotten your solution to the OP. Declare that one came first? I think, in reality, that's what most of us would do.
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Old Mon Dec 07, 2009, 11:43pm
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Fouls called at same time against same team in different areas of the floor ... how do you deal with this?
Was this a test question? I swear this was on the Iowa Closed Book Test and I didn't know how to answer it. I think it said "T or F: Fouls called at same time against same team in different areas of the floor. Ball will be put in play at the division line, opposite the table." I didn't know so I answered true lol

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this was on the KHSAA test
I just took my online test - a question about where the ball is put in play after simultaneous fouls was on there.

Case book, 4.19.10 Simultaneous foul
b1 fouls dribbling a1 near the division line. At approximately the same time, a2 fouls b2 in the lane near Team A's basket. Ruling: This is a simultaneous personal foul. B1 and A2 are charged with personal fouls. the ball shall be put back in play at the point of interruption. Team A is awarded a throw in on the sideline nearest to where the ball was located when the fouls occurred.
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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 12:09am
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I just took my online test - a question about where the ball is put in play after simultaneous fouls was on there.

Case book, 4.19.10 Simultaneous foul
b1 fouls dribbling a1 near the division line. At approximately the same time, a2 fouls b2 in the lane near Team A's basket. Ruling: This is a simultaneous personal foul. B1 and A2 are charged with personal fouls. the ball shall be put back in play at the point of interruption. Team A is awarded a throw in on the sideline nearest to where the ball was located when the fouls occurred.
A simultaneous foul involves two fouls committed by OPPONENTS. The situation being discussed in this thread involves two fouls committed by TEAMMATES.

It seems that you missed that important point.
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