To my fellow new officials...

[Back In The Saddle]

Boys V scrimmage on Friday, my P and I are making the rounds just before the jump getting all the bands off the kids. P has a little convo with one kid with one of those tied on friendship band thingees, but he lets the kid keep it. I asked him about it afterward. Apparently the convo went like this...

P: The band has got to come off
Kid: I tried, it's too tight
P: Your girlfriend tied it on?
Kid: (sheepish smile) Yeah
P: Okay, but you've only got until next game to tell her you're going to have to take it off

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Boys V scrimmage on Friday, my P and I are making the rounds just before the jump getting all the bands off the kids. P has a little convo with one kid with one of those tied on friendship band thingees, but he lets the kid keep it. I asked him about it afterward. Apparently the convo went like this...

P: The band has got to come off
Kid: I tried, it's too tight
P: Your girlfriend tied it on?
Kid: (sheepish smile) Yeah
P: Okay, but you've only got until next game to tell her you're going to have to take it off

In a case similar to this last yr I had a player come back on the floor with white, medical tape over it.....objections?

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by grunewar

In a case similar to this last yr I had a player come back on the floor with white, medical tape over it.....objections?

Other than it still being illegal, no objections.

The jewelry rule prohibits these bracelets; it does not "prohibit them unless covered with tape."

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by grunewar

In a case similar to this last yr I had a player come back on the floor with white, medical tape over it.....objections?

Originally Posted by mbyron

Other than it still being illegal, no objections. The jewelry rule prohibits these bracelets; it does not "prohibit them unless covered with tape."

I am certainly over exaggerating here, but let's say that a piece of tape falls off, lands sticky side up on the floor, and a player slides, and falls, when his shoe touches the tape. He breaks his skull and dies. Or the tape falls off, and a promising concert pianist catches his finger under the bracelet, dislocating, and breaking, the finger in several places.

Remember that anybody can sue anybody for anything. They may not win, but the official will still have to hire an attorney. If somehow the bracelet is overlooked, that's just poor officiating, and that's one thing. If the official notices the bracelet and allows it in the game, that's another thing, it's called negligence.

And let's not forget the major editorial change for 2009-10: 3-7: Clarified that any item, in the referee’s judgment, that constitutes a safety concern is not permitted.

Note: If you do get sued, let me recommend the firm where my attorney is a partner: Howe, Dewey, Cheatem & Wynn, Attorneys at Law.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

If the official notices the bracelet and allows it in the game, that's another thing, it's called negligence.

Horsefeathers. Called that by whom?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Horsefeathers. Called that by whom?

The attorney of the dead player, or the player whose career as a concert pianist is in jeopardy. You may not call it negligence. I may not. But the attorneys representing these two players can, and will. Remember anybody can sue anybody for anything. And if you don't hire an attorney to defend yourself against false allegations, then, as they say, you have a fool for a client. Maybe our liability insurance through NFHS, or IAABO, or some other organization, will cover us, but you still need a lawyer to negotiate. And they make more per billable hour than we do on the court.

Who was it on this Forum who said, and I'm paraphrasing here, you can't do wrong if you follow the rules as written? C'mon, fess up to it. It was a good line, as I remember.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The attorney of the dead player, or the player whose career as a concert pianist is in jeopardy. You may not call it negligence. I may not. But the attorneys representing these two players can, and will. Remember anybody can sue anybody for anything. And if you don't hire an attorney to defend yourself against false allegations, then, as they say, you have a fool for a client. Maybe our liability insurance through NFHS, or IAABO, or some other organization, will cover us, but you still need a lawyer to negotiate. And they make more per billable hour than we do on the court.

Who was it on this Forum who said, and I'm paraphrasing here, you can't do wrong if you follow the rules as written? C'mon, fess up to it. It was a good line, as I remember.

In the first place, attorneys know the rule book even less than coaches.

In the second place. "That's a thought. Here's another thought."
(raspberry)*

*Archie Bunker

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Boys V scrimmage on Friday, my P and I are making the rounds just before the jump getting all the bands off the kids. P has a little convo with one kid with one of those tied on friendship band thingees, but he lets the kid keep it. I asked him about it afterward. Apparently the convo went like this...

P: The band has got to come off
Kid: I tried, it's too tight
P: Your girlfriend tied it on?
Kid: (sheepish smile) Yeah
P: Okay, but you've only got until next game to tell her you're going to have to take it off

Are you sure that wasn't the collar around his neck?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Boys V scrimmage on Friday, my P and I are making the rounds just before the jump getting all the bands off the kids. P has a little convo with one kid with one of those tied on friendship band thingees, but he lets the kid keep it. I asked him about it afterward. Apparently the convo went like this...

P: The band has got to come off
Kid: I tried, it's too tight
P: Your girlfriend tied it on?
Kid: (sheepish smile) Yeah
P: Okay, but you've only got until next game to tell her you're going to have to take it off

Sometimes you have to choose between p***y and basketball.

[dsqrddgd909]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Sometimes you have to choose between p***y and basketball.

I had to make that choice a number of times many years ago. I don't have that choice nearly as often nowadays.