Team Control Established on Throw In (NFHS)

[Back In The Saddle]

Just a generally useful tip: Often the answer to exactly when some situation or condition begins and ends, like team control and player control, is found in Rule 4. If you haven't had a good look at Rule 4 yet, you'd be well served to read it thoroughly before carrying on with any other rules.

[Johnny Ringo]

Another team control question:

Try by A1... A2 or B1 commits a foul.

If the ball goes in, basket counts, in both situations correct? And are there any free throws shot or simply ball out of bounds at spot and no free throws because no team control on a try or tap for field goal?

Is the above all correct?

[APG]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

Another team control question:

Try by A1... A2 or B1 commits a foul.

If the ball goes in, basket counts, in both situations correct? And are there any free throws shot or simply ball out of bounds at spot and no free throws because no team control on a try or tap for field goal?

Is the above all correct?

Basket counts. If either team is in the bonus, shoot the bonus free throws. If not, if:

A2 fouls, then Team B will have an unrestricted throw in on the endline
B1 fouls, then Team A will inbound the ball at the spot out of bounds nearest to where the foul occurred.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

Another team control question:

Try by A1

Insufficient information to answer the question.

[Johnny Ringo]

Sorry Bob. Basically, you shoot free throws on any foul if either team is in the bonus when there is no team control ... and there is no team control on a try or a tap?

In this case there was a try, tap (attempt for a fg) and if you have a foul on either team during the try you would shot if in the bonus. Correct?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

There is no team control on a try or a tap?

Johnny Ringo: Be careful how you word your posts. There are rookies out there that may misconstrue what you post.

NFHS 4-12-3-A: Team control continues until: The ball is in flight during a try or tap for goal.

[Johnny Ringo]

Correct. Sorry about that ... Once the ball is in flight (for a try or a tap) - team control stops and any foul after that point results in free throws either way if the bonus is reached.

Would that be a correct statement?

[Mark Padgett]

I tell the HS kids I train to officiate to memorize these two statements:

1) during a period of no team control, team control is established when a player establishes player control

2) player control is defined as a player holding or dribbling a live ball inbounds

I find these statements most helpful.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

Correct. Sorry about that ... Once the ball is in flight (for a try or a tap) - team control stops and any foul after that point results in free throws either way if the bonus is reached.

Would that be a correct statement?

Yes, that's correct. Your OP just said "during a try" so it didn't contain the needed information (was the ball in flight or not) in the case where the foul was by A2.

In the case where the foul was by B1, the OP also didn't say whether the foul was against airborne shooter A1.