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Old Tue Nov 17, 2009, 04:01pm
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I remember this happening too. It was near the end of a Syracuse game that they won easily. I was going to bring it up here, but figured nobody saw it. The official who was running by Syr's bench did signal a travel. I'm thinking that maybe Jimmy Boeheim said something like "call a travel so I can get my walk-ons in" because he didn't want to take a time out. Any thoughts on this? Can time-outs be shortened in NCAA-M?

Still, you're right, the announcers never admitted a mistake. Of course it was under 2 minutes in a 20+ point blowout.
No, this is why you do not listen to commentators. NCAA Rules allow for a substitution timeout, which is done only for the reasons to get players into the game. The official calls the timeout and then gives a "travel like" signal to tell everyone that this is a substitution timeout. This was the game I saw and they gave the ball back tot he same team that had the ball that called the timeout. There was no violation called at all and the dumb azz announcers did not even realize this. This rule has been in place for about 4 or 5 years now.

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Agreed, I have done that, but reviewing an OOB is not allowed except the NBA. I'm getting second hand information, but I was just told they went back a second time on an out of bounds call. Two different people have called me with the same situation.
Maybe they thought the "right thing to do" was go to the monitor to see who caused the ball to go OOB.
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Old Tue Nov 17, 2009, 04:30pm
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Maybe they thought the "right thing to do" was go to the monitor to see who caused the ball to go OOB.
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Some officials use the travel signal for a substitution timeout. I think they were volleyball officials in another life or something.

NCAA 5-13.14.b "When a request is made to shorten a timeout for a substitution(s), the signal for shortening a timeout shall be given and play shall be resumed immediately."

NCAAW has a specific signal for this. There's no similar signal shown for NCAAM.
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Maybe they thought the "right thing to do" was go to the monitor to see who caused the ball to go OOB.
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NCAA 5-13.14.b "When a request is made to shorten a timeout for a substitution(s), the signal for shortening a timeout shall be given and play shall be resumed immediately."

NCAAW has a specific signal for this. There's no similar signal shown for NCAAM.
I forgot to thank you for this. I'd forgotten that the NCAA had a provision for the requesting team to shorten the timeout for substitutions. NFHS does not have this, but I've seen officials use an IW to accomplish the same thing.
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