Help on out-of-bounds play

[jsblanton]

This season I have had at least one time during every game that a the ball comes from my partners primary but goes out on my sideline. I don't know who touched it last so I ask him for help. He tells me what he saw and we play on.
I guess what I want to know is, is once a game to many times for this to be happening to me? I have really tried to work on watching my primary but I feel I am missing little things elsewhere on the floor that I shouldn't be.

[JugglingReferee]

I get 4-5 of these per season, which represents about 100 games.

[jdw3018]

Two thoughts:

1. These plays seem to come in bunches for me. I had one tonight. I fully expect to have another one or two in the next couple games. Just happens.

2. Don't be afraid to ask for it - if the ball comes from a partner's primary and you're doing your job of officiating hard in your primary, then you won't always (and shouldn't, many times) have any idea who caused the ball to go OOB.

[BillyMac]

From my pregame:

Out-Of-Bounds Help
For out-of-bounds help, let's get it right. Come together for a change if needed. If I have no idea and I look to you for help, just give a directional signal. No need to come to me. Just point. If I signal but I get it wrong, then blow the whistle and come to me. Tell me what you saw and let me decide if I’m going to change it.

[jdmara]

always a pregame topic. I agree with BillyMac on this one

-Josh

[Adam]

It's all luck of the draw on this play.

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I get 4-5 of these per season, which represents about 100 games.

I have been involved in 5 of these in college games already this year (I hope that is the end) several in one game.
However it is completely dependant on the situation, they are all different.
stop the clock ask for help and get it right.
that is the most important thing.

[mj]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

From my pregame:

Out-Of-Bounds Help
For out-of-bounds help, let's get it right. Come together for a change if needed. If I have no idea and I look to you for help, just give a directional signal. No need to come to me. Just point. If I signal but I get it wrong, then blow the whistle and come to me. Tell me what you saw and let me decide if I’m going to change it.

Agree with the above also. Or sometimes if I have no idea, I'll glance at my partner and he'll turn and run to the other end. We are then heading the other way...

[Smitty]

If this is happening mainly when you are lead, try and stand deeper off the baseline so you have a bigger peripheral view of the court. While that won't eliminate all of these occurrences, it may help you reduce the amount you miss.

Originally Posted by Smitty

If this is happening mainly when you are lead, try and stand deeper off the baseline so you have a bigger peripheral view of the court.

Last time I did that one of the cheerleaders invited me to an "after party"

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Two thoughts:

1. These plays seem to come in bunches for me. I had one tonight. I fully expect to have another one or two in the next couple games. Just happens.

2. Don't be afraid to ask for it - if the ball comes from a partner's primary and you're doing your job of officiating hard in your primary, then you won't always (and shouldn't, many times) have any idea who caused the ball to go OOB.

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

I have been involved in 5 of these in college games already this year (I hope that is the end) several in one game.
However it is completely dependant on the situation, they are all different.
stop the clock ask for help and get it right. That is the most important thing.

They come in bunches with me too, as do many others things. There was a thread a bit back about double fouls. Not 2 days after that thread, I had a DF. Then, I called another one this past Saturday night in a V tournament final.

Play: I'm L, and big man A1 in the post closest to me pivots and plants his elbow into B2's chest. But B1 had reached in and ending up grabbing A1's other arm. I saw both happen, and honestly couldn't tell you which "happened first", as they were that close to each other along the timeline. So I went with another double foul. Not one DF since I can remember and two in the past 2 weeks.

[Raymond]

I tell my partner(s) in pre-game that I'm not shy about asking for help. I probably average over the season 1 every 2 games but may have 2-3 in one game.

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

They come in bunches with me too, as do many others things. There was a thread a bit back about double fouls. Not 2 days after that thread, I had a DF. Then, I called another one this past Saturday night in a V tournament final.

There were threads recently about players running OOB (which I have not read) and automatic T's for players slamming the ball. Then last night we had a player bounce the ball hard with one hand and we didn't call a T. I say something to the player and his coach immediately put a sub in for him.

Then I had player run OOB along the baseline. At first I just said to get back on the court. But he didn't and I looked up and they were running a play for him. So I blew my whistle just as he got the ball.

[jsblanton]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

Last time I did that one of the cheerleaders invited me to an "after party"

Hope it was a college game!!!

[mick]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

From my pregame:

Out-Of-Bounds Help
For out-of-bounds help, let's get it right. Come together for a change if needed. If I have no idea and I look to you for help, just give a directional signal. No need to come to me. Just point. If I signal but I get it wrong, then blow the whistle and come to me. Tell me what you saw and let me decide if I’m going to change it.

If I come to you for help and you don't know, give me *Thumbs up*.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by mick

If I come to you for help and you don't know, give me *Thumbs up*.

Thanks. I will add this to my pregame.