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Old Mon Nov 09, 2009, 10:39pm
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Here's a pass at a review of traveling rules. Holler back if you find something missing, new, interesting, weird or just plain wrong. It covers a lot of ground, so corrections are expected. The final version will be included in a newsletter.

 
Traveling. It's about movement. (Draft)


Traveling is often misunderstood and miscalled. With a quick or crafty basketball player, it can be a challenge to determine if a travel violation or legal movement has occurred. The guiding principle of being sure before calling a violation fits particularly well for traveling. It is better to pass on a questionable travel violation than to take away the advantage gained by an offensive player via legal movement.

With the best of intentions, consistently getting the travel call right is hard. Without a solid understanding of the rule and careful study of travel situations, positive consistency is beyond reach.

This article addresses the traveling rules as defined by the National Federation of High Schools (NFHS), National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA), National Basketball Association (NBA), Women's National Basketball Association (WNBA) and the Fédération Internationale de Basketball Amateur (FIBA). Fortunately, basic concepts and much of the detail is consistent across these rules. The differences are identified here.

The remaining sections of this article are:
Definition: A comprehensive definition of traveling is provided. The full content of each travel rule is available separately along with selected highlighting of differences at phillyref.com travel rules. Supplementary NFHS, NCAA, NBA and FIBA cases are also available.
Simple Truths:Applying a few simple truths goes a long way to avoiding basic travel miscalculations.
Jump Stop:This extension of allowable pivot foot movement is described.
Pivot Foot:The key traveling concept of establishing a pivot is outlined.
Travel Gotchas: Back for three, bunny hop, head start, late dribble and post shuffle are among the common missed travel violations that are identified. Some video examples are provided.
Travel No Gotchas: Some travel calls ain't travels. These include a legal jump stop, hustle slide, advancing without control of the ball and multiple steps during a dribble.

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Old Mon Nov 09, 2009, 10:43pm
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Yea, i know FIFA is soccer. Can't edit the title to FIBA.
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Yea, i know FIFA is soccer. Can't edit the title to FIBA.
You could delete the thread and repost. I'm just sayin'.
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Leave the fifa. It adds a touch of class to the post!
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You mean the Federation Internationale de Football Association?

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Question about: "2.Lifting both feet..."

"2.Lifting both feet and returning either to the floor before passing or shooting"

Sometimes there is a situation when player start the jump (rising up) but stop in the middle of the jump, and even if the shoes never left the floor completely i think it still travelling.

am i right?
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"2.Lifting both feet and returning either to the floor before passing or shooting"

Sometimes there is a situation when player start the jump (rising up) but stop in the middle of the jump, and even if the shoes never left the floor completely i think it still travelling.

am i right?
Why would it be a travel if the foot never left the floor?
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"2.Lifting both feet and returning either to the floor before passing or shooting"

Sometimes there is a situation when player start the jump (rising up) but stop in the middle of the jump, and even if the shoes never left the floor completely i think it still travelling.

am i right?
Yes, you are right.

(To be clear, you are right that you think it's travelling. However, despite what you think, it's not travelling, even in "real games.")
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only the fingers didnt left....

.... i mean, even the player himself felt that he already was in the air, there was no force between his foot to the floor, only minimal touching.
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.... i mean, even the player himself felt that he already was in the air, there was no force between his foot to the floor, only minimal touching.
Sometimes you have to officiate.
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.... i mean, even the player himself felt that he already was in the air, there was no force between his foot to the floor, only minimal touching.
touching - touching - did you say the FOOT WAS TOUCHING!

I tried to give you a clue. Also - if a player does not believe that he committed a violation or foul - does that make it true?
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.... i mean, even the player himself felt that he already was in the air, there was no force between his foot to the floor, only minimal touching.
I can't read the player's mind, and I don't intend to try. If the foot is touching, it's touching. Minimal touching is all that is required.
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ok thanks for clarification.



and btw you try to read the player mind. for eample when you call for foot ball... you call only if its intentional no?

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and btw you try to read the player mind. for eample when you call for foot ball... you call only if its intentional no?
You could look at it that way, but whether he hits the ball intentionally is indicated by actual behavior and movement of the leg. Whether he thinks he's airborne is much more difficult to determine. And irrelevant.
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