Help with test question

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I thought the assistant coach, acting as the head coach, after the head coach was ejected, was not allowed to stand, but could do all the other things associated with being a head coach, like request timeouts. Unfortunately, I don't have any written citations to back this up. Any help out there would be greatly appreciated.

I know that I'm taking a big chance by not always listening to bob, but this may be that one time in a million when it actually pans out.

I believe Bob was referring to the ability to stand to request timeouts, correctable errors, etc.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

S/he is allowed to stand (assuming no Ts) and request time out

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I believe Bob was referring to the ability to stand to request timeouts, correctable errors, etc.

In a coaching box state, isn't the head coach, who has lost his, or her privilege of standing due to a technical foul, still allowed to stand up to request a time-out or signal his, or her, players to request a timeout, to confer with personnel at the scorer’s table to request a timeout for a correctable error, timing, scoring, or alternating possession mistake, to replace, or remove, a disqualified, or injured, player, or player directed to leave the game, during a charged timeout, or the intermission between quarters, and extra periods, or to spontaneously react to an outstanding play by a team member, or to acknowledge a replaced player?

Unless the head coach is ejected, I don't believe that the head coach ever loses the right to stand for the situations listed above. However, after the head coach is ejected, does the assistant coach now inherit all of these rights and privileges, or just some of them: the right to stand during a charged timeout, or the intermission between quarters, and extra periods, and to spontaneously react to an outstanding play by a team member or to acknowledge a replaced player, which they always had as a member of the bench personnel?

When the head coach gets ejected, and the assistant is now in charge of the team, does he, or she, inherit all of the "standing" rights, and privileges, or some of the "standing" rights, and privileges, of the head coach? In other words, is he, or she, now the "head" coach who has lost his, or her, coaching box privileges due to the technical fouls incurred by the "real" head coach, or a member of the bench personnel who happens to be in charge of the team? I doubt that the new "head" coach gains the coaching box privilege after the "real" head coach has been ejected due to technical fouls, but, as I stated in a previous post, I don't have any pertinent citations.

In a similar vein, assuming no technical fouls, in the first minute of the game the head coach gets sick and decides to go to the locker room, doctor, hospital, home, etc. What standing rights, and privileges, does the assistant, now acting as the head coach, inherit, by rule? All coaching box privileges? All the standing rights as the "real" head coach, without the privilege of a coaching box? Or just the standing rights of a member of the bench personnel?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[Back In The Saddle]

AFAIK that is correct. When an AC assumes the HC role, he is empowered to act in that role. That includes the ability to stand in the situations enumerated in 10-5-1, sans the coaching box which is lost for the remainder of the game.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

AFAIK that is correct. When an AC assumes the HC role, he is empowered to act in that role. That includes the ability to stand in the situations enumerated in 10-5-1, sans the coaching box which is lost for the remainder of the game.

That's what I would say.

Note that in NCAA, the coach may continue to stand even after s/he receives a direct or an indirect T, and the newly-promoted AC would have the same ability.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

That's what I would say.

Note that in NCAA, the coach may continue to stand even after s/he receives a direct or an indirect T, and the newly-promoted AC would have the same ability.

Where does it say the AC was promoted? If a team loses the head coach due to ejection, where does it say they must have a "new head coach," as opposed to having an assistant running the team?

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Where does it say the AC was promoted? If a team loses the head coach due to ejection, where does it say they must have a "new head coach," as opposed to having an assistant running the team?

Where does it say that the assistant is not promoted? The rules recognize the existence of a head coach, and place some limitations on him/her. But how a person gets to be head coach is a matter upon which the rules are entirely silent. I understand that to mean that it's a matter over which I have no input or control.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Where does it say that the assistant is not promoted? The rules recognize the existence of a head coach......

The rules also say that a team consists of 5 players, but if too many players are disqualified, that team must make do with less than 5. Why do we assume that a team whose head coach is disqualified should not now do without a head coach, and a few privileges that go with the title, like, for example, the ability to request a timeout from the bench.

The more I think about this, the better I like it.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Where does it say the AC was promoted? If a team loses the head coach due to ejection, where does it say they must have a "new head coach," as opposed to having an assistant running the team?

You're right, it doesn't. Those were my words. The NCAA book uses the word "replaces." Thanks for the correction.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

You're right, it doesn't. Those were my words. The NCAA book uses the word "replaces." Thanks for the correction.

Okay, so HC is gone, and AC replaces him. AC is now an HC, even if it's temporary. So he went from AC to HC. Isn't there a word for that sort of career move? It's on the tip of my tongue....

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

That includes the ability to stand in the situations enumerated in 10-5-1, sans the coaching box which is lost for the remainder of the game.

Back In The Saddle, I just love it when you speak French! (With apologies to Gomez Addams)