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[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

The head coach is a position, not a person. You don't disqualify a position, you disqualify a person.

Accepting this as fact, the question remains: When this position is suddenly vacant, is another person necessarily/automatically promoted into this position.

I don't know if this would change anything for anyone, but around here it is not uncommon for the small schools to only have one coach, even at the varsity level. I have seen numerous occasions where the head coach was ejected and the principal or some other school official had to step in and finish the game as the (head?) coach.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Obviously, it is necessary for someone to assume some responsibilities of the now departed head coach. If a player wears an illegal jersey, somebody has to get the T. Or does he? In lieu of a head coach, any technical foul which would normally go to the head coach could now be a team T. An assistant coach is now running the team, but does he now have the responsibilities and privileges of a head coach?

The whole point was that I would like to see this issue specifically addressed in the books.

Really? You need this spelled out that explicitly for you?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Accepting this as fact, the question remains: When this position is suddenly vacant, is another person necessarily/automatically promoted into this position.

I don't know if this would change anything for anyone, but around here it is not uncommon for the small schools to only have one coach, even at the varsity level. I have seen numerous occasions where the head coach was ejected and the principal or some other school official had to step in and finish the game as the (head?) coach.

I would classify this under the Duck Rule.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck; it's a howler monkey.

[Back In The Saddle]

Exactly. I vaguely recall somebody saying something similar in post #10.

I've started to say this a few times, but never actually posted it. But here goes...

The rules acknowledge the role of head coach. The rules place some restrictions upon the person acting in this role. Beyond that, however, the rules are silent regarding this role and the person filling it.

I understand that silence to mean that details left unspecified are outside the scope of the rules, and outside our jurisdiction. In other words, somebody else gets to make those decisions, and gets to make whatever additional rules regarding the person or the position that the decision maker, or decision making body, deems appropriate.

There are other cases like this in the rules. The rules acknowledge the notion of eligibility (e.g., definition of team member) but do not define it. The rules acknowledge the role of game management/home management/host management, a role with certain specified responsibilities (e.g., designating each team's bench, reasonable responsibility for spectator behavior), but which otherwise remains undefined.

We have no problem excusing ourselves from involvement in player eligibility. We would not consider it our place to decide who fills the role of game management (with one clearly-defined exception specified by rule, adding an additional role to an existing role, which we had no part in determining who fills). So I find it puzzling that some of us want to grant ourselves a voice, even a veto, in any decision regarding who can or cannot be the head coach if the current head coach is ejected. Or suggesting we go outside the rules to reduce or eliminate privileges granted to the person filling that role.

Talk about making stuff up as we go along...

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Talk about making stuff up as we go along...

Making it up as we go along is what we're trying to avoid.

A simple, brief addition to the book is all that it would take.

If the head coach is ejected, an assistant coach or some available adult associated with the school will assume this position, along with all the responsibilities and privileges which were originally those of the head coach at the start of the game.

or,

If the head coach is ejected, an assistant coach or other qualified adult shall be in charge of the team. This person is not allowed to use the box, and any technical foul which would have been charged to the coach (illegal jersey, etc.) is now a team technical.

[deecee]

JAR,

this really keeps you up at night?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by deecee

JAR,

this really keeps you up at night?

No possums to argue with.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by deecee

Really? You need this spelled out that explicitly for you?

Not a matter of need, but when we consider some of the things which are
spelled out explicitly:

4-39-1: A rule is one of a group of regulations which govern the game.