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Old Tue Sep 29, 2009, 08:46am
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We all think that you should read the new editorial changes.
I can't get to this year's rule changes. The link I had this summer isn't working anymore, can somene post the link(s) please?

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Old Tue Sep 29, 2009, 08:58am
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I can't get to this year's rule changes. The link I had this summer isn't working anymore, can somene post the link(s) please?

thanx.
This link will download the PDF document.

http://www.nfhs.org/WorkArea/DownloadAsset.aspx?id=3180
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I can't get to this year's rule changes. The link I had this summer isn't working anymore, can somene post the link(s) please?

thanx.
I thought you knew everything????? LOL!!!!
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Old Tue Sep 29, 2009, 12:14pm
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I thought you knew everything????? LOL!!!!
I do....but that's because I'm not afraid to ask questions.

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Old Tue Sep 29, 2009, 02:59pm
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77) Except for the first marked lane spaces that must be occupied by the defense during a free throw, players are permitted to occupy any vacant marked lane space within the numerical limits.

The offensive team can not be in a spot that is designated for the denfensive player correct?

The answer key say this is a true question

ART. 4 . . . During a free throw, lane spaces may be occupied as follows:
a. Marked lane spaces may be occupied by a maximum of four defensive and
two offensive players.
b. The lane areas from the end line up to, and including, the neutral-zone
marks, shall remain vacant.
c. The first marked lane spaces on each side of the lane, above and adjacent
to the neutral-zone marks, shall be occupied by opponents of the free
thrower. No teammate of the free thrower shall occupy either of these
marked lane spaces.
d. The second marked lane spaces on each side may be occupied by
teammates of the free thrower.
e. The third marked lane spaces on each side, nearest the free thrower, may
be occupied by the opponents of the free thrower.
f. Players shall be permitted to move along and across the lane to occupy a
vacant marked lane space within the limitations listed in this rule.
g. Not more than one player may occupy any part of a marked lane space.


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Old Tue Sep 29, 2009, 03:06pm
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Only the first lane spaces are restricted to defense only. The last two spaces are for the defense if they want them, and the middle two are for the offense if they want them. If the preferred occupants decline to occupy those four spaces, the other team may take them if they desire.

Note the difference in wording between article 4c and the next two, 4d and 4e. 4c uses "shall" and the other two use "may."

Not only may the offense not use the the first spaces if the defense declines, the defense may not decline to use them.
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Old Tue Sep 29, 2009, 08:24pm
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Only the first lane spaces are restricted to defense only. The last two spaces are for the defense if they want them, and the middle two are for the offense if they want them. If the preferred occupants decline to occupy those four spaces, the other team may take them if they desire.

Note the difference in wording between article 4c and the next two, 4d and 4e. 4c uses "shall" and the other two use "may."

Not only may the offense not use the the first spaces if the defense declines, the defense may not decline to use them.
You're right it says "may", but it doesn't say that the other team may take the spots if the original team doesn't want them.

Does that mean that it's legal?
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Old Tue Sep 29, 2009, 08:33pm
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That is the way it was explained to me from the Illinois high School Assoc. that if the team that "may" be there is not then the rules does not provide that the "other " team can be there
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Old Tue Sep 29, 2009, 03:12pm
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77) The offensive team can not be in a spot that is designated for the denfensive player correct?.
Incorrect for FED rules.
Correct for NCAAW rules.
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Old Tue Sep 29, 2009, 09:21pm
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77)f. Players shall be permitted to move along and across the lane to occupy a vacant marked lane space within the limitations listed in this rule.
Your answer is in f. (see above) If it's vacant and not the first space closest to the endline, the opponent can have it as long as they stay within the limits of 4 defensive players and 2 offensive.

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Old Thu Oct 01, 2009, 12:53am
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77) Except for the first marked lane spaces that must be occupied by the defense during a free throw, players are permitted to occupy any vacant marked lane space within the numerical limits.

The offensive team can not be in a spot that is designated for the denfensive player correct?

The answer key say this is a true question

ART. 4 . . . During a free throw, lane spaces may be occupied as follows:
a. Marked lane spaces may be occupied by a maximum of four defensive and
two offensive players.
b. The lane areas from the end line up to, and including, the neutral-zone
marks, shall remain vacant.
c. The first marked lane spaces on each side of the lane, above and adjacent
to the neutral-zone marks, shall be occupied by opponents of the free
thrower. No teammate of the free thrower shall occupy either of these
marked lane spaces.
d. The second marked lane spaces on each side may be occupied by
teammates of the free thrower.
e. The third marked lane spaces on each side, nearest the free thrower, may
be occupied by the opponents of the free thrower.
f. Players shall be permitted to move along and across the lane to occupy a
vacant marked lane space within the limitations listed in this rule.

g. Not more than one player may occupy any part of a marked lane space.


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It says right there in part f that the players SHALL BE PERMITTED TO MOVE.

Unlike the NCAAW game, if the team entitled to the spot doesn't want it, the opponent may take it at the NFHS level, except for the first two defensive spots nearest to the basket.
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