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Old Sun Sep 20, 2009, 07:50am
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"And I gotta wonder why it wasn't in the news earlier like the one about David Adelman was. Did Jesuit cover it up? Or what?"
Juulie your ignorance is showing again.

Jesuit does not have the ability to "cover-up" legal processes. Your witch hunt will not go very far.

People here don't really care about the Jesuit hating that goes on in our local area.

Remember ESPN rated Jesuit as the second best high school athletic program in the nation.

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Old Sun Sep 20, 2009, 11:50am
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Juulie your ignorance is showing again.

Jesuit does not have the ability to "cover-up" legal processes. Your witch hunt will not go very far.

People here don't really care about the Jesuit hating that goes on in our local area.

Remember ESPN rated Jesuit as the second best high school athletic program in the nation.
Tim, I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm not a Jesuit hater at all. And I'm not on a witch hunt. I wasn't implying an ability to "cover-up" legal processes. I was wondering more about the Oregonian's not printing something. That's all.

Now I'm wondering about your paranoia, maybe?
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Old Sun Sep 20, 2009, 05:24pm
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Again Juulie:

You really don't get it.

The Boreagonian quite quickly jumps on anything that makes headlines.

The paper simply printed the information when it was received. They (The Bore) didn't hesitate on either of the two arrests and you should also recognize that her brother's was also headlines as soon as it was officially reported.

You are the one that said: "Did Jesuite cover it up?"

Cripes.

How would you know how much she screeched? . . . oh yeah, after your JV game you probably stayed to watch the varsity officials.
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Old Sun Sep 20, 2009, 05:29pm
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You really don't get it.

The Boreagonian quite quickly jumps on anything that makes headlines.

The paper simply printed the information when it was received. They (The Bore) didn't hesitate on either of the two arrests and you should also recognize that her brother's was also headlines as soon as it was officially reported.

You are the one that said: "Did Jesuite cover it up?"

Cripes.

How would you know how much she screeched? . . . oh yeah, after your JV game you probably stayed to watch the varsity officials.
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Old Sun Sep 20, 2009, 06:33pm
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You really don't get it.

The Boreagonian quite quickly jumps on anything that makes headlines.

The paper simply printed the information when it was received. They (The Bore) didn't hesitate on either of the two arrests and you should also recognize that her brother's was also headlines as soon as it was officially reported.

You are the one that said: "Did Jesuite cover it up?"

Cripes.

How would you know how much she screeched? . . . oh yeah, after your JV game you probably stayed to watch the varsity officials.
I "don't get it?" Don't get what??

I didn't see either of her arrests in the Oregonian. I read it every day. Maybe I just missed it. Her brother's arrests were both on the front page of the sports section, but I didn't see either of hers. Yes, I asked if Jesuit covered it up. It was a question, wondering whether they tried to keep it out of the paper. Just a question, not an indictment or an implication.

"Cripes??" Does that really deserve a "Cripes?"

How do I know how much she screeched?? I did one of her games (yes, varsity) and I also heard her screeching at other refs at games I was watching.

I guess I don't understand why you're jumping on me. Why the insinuations that I wouldn't really know how she treated refs? And what's wrong with staying to watch a varsity game after I work JV?

I'm baffled why you're being so belligerent to me...
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Old Sun Sep 20, 2009, 07:11pm
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. . . oh yeah, after your JV game you probably stayed to watch the varsity officials.
Wow.

Nice shot there, Tim C.

It's interesting how opinions about a person can be influenced by something as small as a b!tchy comment they post about someone else on an officials discussion board.

Not sure you won very many fan points by posting a comment like that.
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Old Sun Sep 20, 2009, 07:54pm
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Not sure you won very many fan points by posting a comment like that.
He does not care about who is a fan of his. His posting style might offend some people, but IMO he is well worth listening to when it comes to baseball umpiring.
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who cares?

How come it doesn't make the news if a referee -at any level- gets a DUI? Could it be because nobody gives a rats @ss? Nor should we care. Does anyone honestly (having took a look around the room, forget that ) believe that getting a DUI makes someone a bad person? Is there a connection between getting a DUI and not being suitable to coach?

Alcoholism is a disease, but a person need not drink like an alcoholic to make some bad decisions and end up getting a DUI. If a guy gets a DUI, no matter his occupation, that's his business. Most people learn their lesson, they get help. If it becomes a pattern, that becomes different. If it involves others, like destruction of property, or killing or injuring innocents, that's different.

Why in the world any fool would leap to a conclusion that a DUI conviction should lead to not being able to work in one's chosen profession is baffling to me. Wait, what? Nobody said that, close but not exactly? Well then, in that case, I almost offer my apology, not exactly, but close.

I believe this year, maybe last, a Jefferson County, Washington sheriff's deputy has been suspended from duty and arrested with a DUI after he arrived at work appearing to be intoxicated. This guy is really pushing his luck. Should he be offered rehab? Or should it be zero tollerance for LEO's?

George W Bush has a DUI on his record. Other that some lunatic fringe liberals, I don't recall that blemish being offered as doubt that he should be the President.

VP Dick Cheney has 2 arrests for DUI on his record. Didn't seem to hurt him much.

New York Yankees pitcher Joba Chamberlain was cited October 18, 2007 for DUI in Lancaster County, Nebraska. Anyone think he shouldn't be allowed to play MLB?

A basketball referee in Anywhere USA got his 2nd DUI yesterday. It went unreported in all major news papers. Nobody cared except his family and his wallet. He will be refereeing games tonight if he can get a ride to the gym. He is still a quality referee despite the unrelated DUI

A basketball coach at XYZ High School in A Town Near You USA, got his 2nd DUI last week. He is now scorned and looked down upon as a complete loser. The Town, the State, and the referees, are outraged that this pathetic excuse of a man can still be employed as a coach at XYZ High School. "He is supposed to be seting an example!" Meanwhile, star guard Bobby Taylors Dad is still assigned as Bobby's Dad, despite his DUI conviction. And XYZ High's Principal is still the principal despite his 2nd DUI in 5 years.

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bbcoach7,

Coaches at high schools tell their athletes they have to agree to and sign a code of conduct. If the student violates that code, they are suspended or kicked off the team. Why should the coach be treated any different than the athletes he/she is supposed to lead???
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bb7 -- DUI is illegal. It's dangerous and stupid. A coach is expected to be an example to his or her players not only in the school and team setting, but also in everyday life. I would expect the same kind of standard from any teacher with my kids. That person has made a very wrong decision, and needs to be held accountable.

And although there wasn't much that Bush did that I agreed with, I didn't have a problem with his DUII's because they were in the far past, and he'd shown that he'd grown past that stage of his life. Any coach should also be held to that standard. The DUI's we're talking about on this thread are quite recent.
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Old Tue Sep 22, 2009, 09:56pm
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bbcoach7,

Coaches at high schools tell their athletes they have to agree to and sign a code of conduct. If the student violates that code, they are suspended or kicked off the team. Why should the coach be treated any different than the athletes he/she is supposed to lead???
Because the coach didn't sign a code of conduct. Because it's not illegal for the coach to drink alcohol. Because the coach is an adult.
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Because the coach didn't sign a code of conduct. Because it's not illegal for the coach to drink alcohol. Because the coach is an adult.
...but it IS illegal for the coach to drink and drive, and that's what they got in trouble for, not just for drinking at a party and then sleeping it off -- drinking and driving.
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Because the coach didn't sign a code of conduct. Because it's not illegal for the coach to drink alcohol. Because the coach is an adult.
The coach signed a contract with the school district that most certainly DOES contain ethics clauses...the coach DID do something illegal when he/she drank and got behind the wheel of an automobile...the coach needs to ACT like an adult.
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How come it doesn't make the news if a referee -at any level- gets a DUI? Could it be because nobody gives a rats @ss?
Because coaches (sometimes at least) also drive the team bus.

Because coaches are far more "role models" for players than are officials.

Because coaches' names are more known to the editors of the local papers, so when the editor scans the police blotter it stands out and, thus, becomes a story.
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