somewhat OT - what's wrong with the coaches at this school?

[Mark Padgett]

A story in the local paper this morning reported that three HS football coaches (one head coach and two of his assistants) were cited by Portland police for disorderly conduct and they were driven to detox by the police. The three coach at Portland's Lincoln HS.

This is the third incident this year involving Lincoln coaches. In February, boys basketball coach David Adelman (son of former NBA player and coach Rick Adelman) was cited for DUI for the second time since 2005. The baseball coach, Michael Todd, resigned in April after he allegedly accompanied three of his HS players to an adult entertainment venue in San Francisco while at a baseball tournament.

Gee - I'm glad I don't live in that school district. If you were a parent, would you feel good about your kid playing sports at that school?

[grunewar]

Some people just don't get......and never will.

[Amesman]

But you forgot to mention: Are they at least winning a lot of games?

[Hugh Refner]

Strange that these guys can do this stuff and keep coaching kids at the HS level while we have a thread going about what there could be in a guy's background that should prevent him from coaching kids.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Hugh Refner

Strange that these guys can do this stuff and keep coaching kids at the HS level while we have a thread going about what there could be in a guy's background that should prevent him from coaching kids.

I have known teacher/coaches to get DUIs around here and keep their jobs. I think it depends on the school and the situation. DUIs are not automatic firing situations for most people so I would not expect anything different to be for coaches. Not that might be an issue for each community, but a coach keeping their job after a violation is not unusual from what I have seen.

Peace

[TimTaylor]

Mark,

I dug out the local fish wrap when I got home this evening and read the whole article. There appears to be more to the whole situation than meets the eye - will be interested to see how it pans out......

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by TimTaylor

Mark,

I dug out the local fish wrap when I got home this evening and read the whole article. There appears to be more to the whole situation than meets the eye - will be interested to see how it pans out......

It was the lead story on the 5:00 local news. Ya' know, one of the other situations, the DUIs for David Adelman, really floored me, because I remember reffing him when he was just a little kid. I guess ya' never know.

[Mark Padgett]

It was reported this morning that the girls V basketball coach at Portland's Jesuit HS (a private, not public, school) resigned after her second DUI arrest in less than a year! Now here's the ironic part - her name is Kathy Adelman and she's David Adelman's sister! (see OP above)

She became head coach at this school in 1995. They've reached the playoffs 14 consecutive seasons (in Oregon, private and public schools play in the same conferences and playoffs) and won four league titles. In 2003 and 2007 they reached the state championship game in the largest school (Class 6A) tournament.

Oh yeah - two of those three Lincoln HS football coaches pleaded guilty to interfering with police. All three of them have been suspended with pay by the school district.

[Juulie Downs]

it's the part about Kathy Adelman that bugs me the most. And I gotta wonder why it wasn't in the news earlier like the one about David Adelman was. Did Jesuit cover it up? Or what? I didn't like the way she screeched at the refs all the way through her games (the shrillest, most obnoxious coach I've ever been yelled at by), but she was a good coach, and her girls really liked her. It's all just too sad for words.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

it's the part about Kathy Adelman that bugs me the most. And I gotta wonder why it wasn't in the news earlier like the one about David Adelman was. Did Jesuit cover it up? Or what? I didn't like the way she screeched at the refs all the way through her games (the shrillest, most obnoxious coach I've ever been yelled at by), but she was a good coach, and her girls really liked her. It's all just too sad for words.

Not sure what you're referring to. I've worked several of her games over the years, including a few playoff games. I don't recall her ever saying much at all.

[Juulie Downs]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Not sure what you're referring to. I've worked several of her games over the years, including a few playoff games. I don't recall her ever saying much at all.

Well, you are a very good ref, Camron. The one game of hers I reffed, I was probably in over my head, and I know it's just her voice, but it was really annoying.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

Well, you are a very good ref, Camron. The one game of hers I reffed, I was probably in over my head, and I know it's just her voice, but it was really annoying.

You had said...

I didn't like the way she screeched at the refs all the way through her games

appearing to me that you were saying that was her typical behavior.

You seem to be most upset that she appears, based only on you not seeing the article about her, to have gotten special treatment. Just becasue you didn't see it didn't mean it didn't get reported. What gets reported, more often than not, depends on what else is in the news that week. If there was some big event, her story probably got pushed to the last page. It is even possible that if there were enough bigger stories, the editor would choose to drop such a story.

[Tim C]

"It's interesting how opinions about a person can be influenced by something as small as a b!tchy comment . . . "

Actually my opinions about Ms Downs have been established by the (dis)advantage of actually watching her work games. I have also read all of her articles on this website.

My view of Ms Downs have never been hidden as I commented concerning some of her actions, philosophies and activities in my former column on this site.

In my opinion Downs clearly tried to insinuate that some how a local high school had tried to cover up this illegal activity.

The original OP HOWEVER was spot on about the one school who has continued to have inappropriate behavior from many on the coaching staff.

[Tim C]

Come across the river to Hooters and have a sandwhich:

We can discuss the "reasons" that I have landed straight in Juulie's soup.

She made several errors in her post on this subject: I did NOTHING wrong and just may have accidentally exposed some of her obvious weaknesses.

I have dug my own hole. Many years ago I asked in this section: "If you went to a game and watched one of the posters worked a game and they were terrible would you post that review."

Somehow Officiating sites won't allow truth to be the best defense.

And I would much rather live in Portland than Vantucky.

Regards,

[Tim C]

I have never stated that I am a PBOA member.

Keep up to speed if you want to participate.

You have proved my point about truth as a defense.

Regards,