The world of NCAA recruiting

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You had to go and ruin my perfectly mediocre day.

Yeah thanks for that.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

You seem to suggest a coach be punished when they may not have had anything to do with an infraction...but are connected by association. Are you saying that guessing that they were involved is adequate? Or that they were an acquaintance of someone who was?

I operate under the assumption here, that just as the school takes responsibility for the boosters in these situations, so do the coaches. The NCAA has no problem sanctioning a school for something that happened even if they didn't know about it. As head of the program, the coach should be held accountable, too.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Exactly...only if they were directly involved as shown by actual evidence....not guessing that the must have had something to do with becasue they knew someone who was.

I'd be willing to accept this compromise; under which it appears Mr. Floyd would be liable.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Are you an official who guesses that a foul must have been committed or charges it to all players within 5 feet or do you actually have to see it?

Seriously? No, but I am one who will tack on an indirect TF to a head coach whose bench spouts off and earns a T.

[mbyron]

If the penalty stuck to the coach as well as the violating program, we might see two things:

1. coaches becoming more closely involved in preventing violations, and

2. coaches not getting hired so quickly after they left a disgraced program.

Now: what would the unintended consequences be?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by mbyron

If the penalty stuck to the coach as well as the violating program, we might see two things:

1. coaches becoming more closely involved in preventing violations, and

2. coaches not getting hired so quickly after they left a disgraced program.

Now: what would the unintended consequences be?

Calipari won't get another job at all after the NCAA takes away all of this year's Kentucky wins?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Calipari won't get another job at all after the NCAA takes away all of this year's Kentucky wins?

Now I'm feeling all warm and fuzzy; that would be like Christmas.

[DadofTwins]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Calipari won't get another job at all after the NCAA takes away all of this year's Kentucky wins?

Only if willingness to cheat weren't considered a job qualification at quite so many big-time NCAA schools.

In Calipari, Kentucky knew exactly what they were getting, and got exactly what they wanted.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by DadofTwins

Only if willingness to cheat weren't considered a job qualification at quite so many big-time NCAA schools.

In Calipari, Kentucky knew exactly what they were getting, and got exactly what they wanted.

Very true...and sad.

[Nevadaref]

Updated: March 30, 2010, 7:38 PM ET
Committee denies Sidney appeal


Associated Press


STARKVILLE, Miss. -- The Division I Student-Athlete Reinstatement Committee has denied Mississippi State's appeal of the NCAA's penalty against basketball player Renardo Sidney.
The independent committee's decision closes the 11-month investigation into the top prospect's eligibility, a Tuesday news release from the school says.
The NCAA accused Sidney of lying to investigators and ruled earlier this month that he will have to sit out about nine games next season and repay extra benefits he received as a high school player in Los Angeles.
The school only appealed the suspension and did not appeal the $11,800 financial penalty, money the NCAA says Sidney received because of his future earning potential.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by DadofTwins

Only if willingness to cheat weren't considered a job qualification at quite so many big-time NCAA schools.

In Calipari, Kentucky knew exactly what they were getting, and got exactly what they wanted.

I'm waiting for Camron to come along and challenge you to prove it...

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by DadofTwins

Only if willingness to cheat weren't considered a job qualification at quite so many big-time NCAA schools.

In Calipari, Kentucky knew exactly what they were getting, and got exactly what they wanted.

I'd think they (and the NCAA) know a lot more than you do about what he did or didn't do. If he were the cheater you thought he was, they wouldn't touch him. They coudn't afford to.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I operate under the assumption here, that just as the school takes responsibility for the boosters in these situations, so do the coaches. The NCAA has no problem sanctioning a school for something that happened even if they didn't know about it. As head of the program, the coach should be held accountable, too.

How about they sanction the team manager, AD, NCAA compliance director, the university president, or a biology teacher.

The coach is an employee of the school/team/athletic department.

I can see holding the institution responsible but holding a specific person responsible without specific evidence pointing to them would never fly. It would go straight to the courts and would get shot down pretty quickly.