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Old Mon May 11, 2009, 08:58am
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9-1-3d: Clarified that a player leaves a marked lane space when he or she contacts any part of the court outside the marked lane space (36 inches by 36 inches).
This doesn't change the fact that breaking the lane line plane before the ball hits the rim is a violation, right?
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Old Mon May 11, 2009, 09:45am
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This doesn't change the fact that breaking the lane line plane before the ball hits the rim is a violation, right?
Just curious, but what makes you ask that?
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Old Mon May 11, 2009, 10:17am
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Just curious, but what makes you ask that?
A lane violation is defined as breaking the free throw lane line plane before the FT attempt hits the rim or back board. My first glance over this new interp gave me the impression that they were altering that to "a player's foot must touch the floor outside the lane space to be a violation". But I assume that is incorrect, am I right?
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Old Mon May 11, 2009, 10:32am
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A lane violation is defined as breaking the free throw lane line plane before the FT attempt hits the rim or back board. My first glance over this new interp gave me the impression that they were altering that to "a player's foot must touch the floor outside the lane space to be a violation". But I assume that is incorrect, am I right?

Yes/No (depening on which question I'm answering).

They have not changed the rule that says it is a violation when a player's foot breaks the plane FT lane line plane before the ball hits.

What they've changed is to say that if you touch the floor outside the space with any part of the body, you've left the space. It just so happens that a player may have violated with the foot breaking the plane before they touch in the lane. But, a hand breaking the plane is not a violation unless and until it touches the floor (with the last point being the focus of the change). Some/Most of us felt this was a violation all along and was covered by player location rules (at least in princibple....you are where you are touching) but others felt it needed to be spelled out and so it was.
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Old Mon May 11, 2009, 12:51pm
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Edited Rule: Clarified that it is a lane violation when you contact the floor, not when the plane has been broken.


That's not a clarification, that's a rule CHANGE.

A player occupying a marked lane space may not have either foot beyond the vertical plane of the outside edge of any lane boundary, or beyond the vertical plane of any edge of the space

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This doesn't say that you have to put the other foot back -- just that one foot has to be near the line.


What is near? One inch? Six inches? An incomplete rule CHANGE.
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Old Mon May 11, 2009, 04:10pm
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Edited Rule: Clarified that it is a lane violation when you contact the floor, not when the plane has been broken.
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That's not a clarification, that's a rule CHANGE.

A player occupying a marked lane space may not have either foot beyond the vertical plane of the outside edge of any lane boundary, or beyond the vertical plane of any edge of the space
Tony, the above quote by shishstripes is NOT what the NFHS wrote. It is his attempt to paraphrase the actual NFHS clarification. Unfortunately, in doing so, he altered the core of the meaning which incorrectly gave the impression that the NFHS had changed something which they didn't.

The actual text of the NFHS clarification is below. It still should probably be classified as a change or the addition of a new definition, but it is not anything as drastic as what shishstripes wrote.

9-1-3d Clarified that a player leaves a marked lane space when he or she
contacts any part of the court outside the marked lane space (36 inches
by 36 inches).

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Old Mon May 11, 2009, 08:17pm
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9-1-3d Clarified that a player leaves a marked lane space when he or she contacts any part of the court outside the marked lane space (36 inches by 36 inches).


Like a rebounder falling into the lane, and doing a push up with his hands in the lane, while his feet are still behind the plane of the lane line. That situation has been discussed here on the Forum at least once, with no closure to the interpretation, until now.
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Old Tue May 12, 2009, 09:23am
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2006-07 Points of Emphasis
1. Concussions
2. Uniforms
3. Time-outs
4. Intentional Fouls (did NOT mention "rough play" in the paragraph)
5. Rules Enforcement/Proper Signal Use


Prior to that 2004-05 when the POEs were:
1. Closely Guarded
2. Time-out Administration
3. Legal Player Positioning
4. Specific Unsporting Acts


Bet you were thinking that it had been a lot longer than that, huh?
I was, but now that you mention all of this, I'm pretty certain I was getting it confused with NCAAM where I'm positive rough play has been a POE for a number of years straight. But I thought we'd talked about it recently in HS as well also.
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Old Wed May 13, 2009, 08:07pm
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NFHS Press Release ...

INDIANAPOLIS, IN (May 11, 2009) - Replay equipment may be used in state high school basketball championships next year to determine the final outcome of games.

In its April 13-15 meeting in Indianapolis, the National Federation of State High School Associations (NFHS) Basketball Rules Committee voted to permit state high school associations to use a replay monitor to review field-goal attempts at the expiration of time in the fourth quarter or any overtime period, but only in games when the last-second attempt would affect the outcome of the game.

This addition to Rule 2-2-1 was one of two major rules changes and five major editorial revisions approved by the Basketball Rules Committee. All changes were subsequently approved by the NFHS Board of Directors.
In response to end-of-game situations in three state championships during the 2007-08 season (South Carolina, Michigan, Ohio), the committee decided to give state associations the opportunity to use technology, if available, to assist in making sure that the correct team is awarded the state championship. Replay or game officials will be able to determine if the attempt occurred before time expired (0:00 on clock), and whether the shot was a two-point or three-point attempt.

"Coaches, participants, spectators and media now hold game officials to a higher, almost impossible standard," said Mary Struckhoff, NFHS assistant director and liaison to the Basketball Rules Committee. "When available, technology should be used to assist game officials and administrators in making the correct call when the outcome of the game hangs in the balance and a team has no further opportunity to overcome a critical error. This change provides state associations that opportunity."

Although not directly linked to the replay change, the other rule change approved by the committee could enhance the reviews of end-of-game situations. Beginning with the 2009-10 season, if a red light behind the backboard or an LED light on the backboard is present, it is permitted to signal the expiration of time in the quarter/extra period. If no red light/LED light is present, the audible timer's signal will continue to signal the expiration of time. In the past, use of the red light/LED light was not permitted even in those facilities that had one.

"This change allows the technology to be used if it's available, and in those situations when replay officials are reviewing end-of-game attempts, the red light/LED light should be helpful," Struckhoff said. "All other end-of-period rules remain intact."

Two of the five editorial changes were approved in response to last year's major rule change in which all players moved up one lane space during a free-throw attempt, thereby leaving the two marked lane spaces closest to the end line vacant.

New language in Rule 9-1-3d states that a player leaves a marked lane space when he or she contacts any part of the court outside the marked lane space (3 feet by 3 feet). A clarification to Rule 9-1-3g indicates that a player occupying a marked lane space must have one foot positioned near the outer edge of the free-throw lane line with the other positioned anywhere within the designated 36-inch lane space.

Struckhoff said these changes were necessitated by players attempting to leave their positions too early to gain a rebound advantage.

The remaining editorial changes are as follows:
Rules 1-13-3, 5-12-5: Clarified that the imaginary rectangle designated the area to be used for time-outs.
Rule 2-12-5 NOTE: Clarified when the 20-second interval begins to replace an injured player.
Rule 3-7: Clarified that any item, in the referee's judgment, that constitutes a safety concern is not permitted.

The committee also adopted five points of emphasis for the upcoming season. The identified topics include traveling, closely guarded, three-seconds, block/charge and free-throw administration.

According to the 2007-08 High School Athletics Participation Survey conducted by the NFHS, basketball is the most popular sport for girls with 449,450 participants in 17,564 schools. For boys, basketball is first in school sponsorship with 17,861 and second to football with 552,935 participants.
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