Bulls vs Celtics

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

I agree with the Crawford comment and "doing what you have to do". In fact we are trained how to deal with these confrontations and "face to face" confrontations. We are taught not to grab arms cause that, then makes a player defenseless and if he gets swung at, he is unable to protect himself. So you either grab jersey or around the waist.

I've heard the same thought expressed. I've never found it convincing. The problem with that technique is that it leaves the upset individual still able to punch you while you attempt to restrain him, but at the same time not restrain him.

[amusedofficial]

The sports station in Boston actually was handing out compliments to the officials. In a game its team lost.

Cornbread Maxwell, the ex-Celtic who is now a color commentator for radio, was high in his praise of the crew in general and Crawford in particular. He said outright "Joey Crawford took control of that game" and spoke of how the officials drew a line, allowing the teams to play physical without letting the game getting out of hand.

He also made the point that the Hinrich Rondo tussle was well handled to the point where it defused a situation that could have plagued the game going forward, and suggested that the trail originally had a Flagrant 2 on Rondo which was knocked down to a Flagrant 1 after they reviewed the tape -- and that the penalties of a F-1 and a T were enough to put the lid on, while a Flagrant 2 might have resulted in festering hostilities (although he also correctedly noted that Dr. Glenn Rivers ripped Rondo a new one during the game delay which made it clear that the team had to avoid being drawn into incidents that could lead to ejection or disqualification.)

It was rather insightful commentary, given NBE standards,and others on the same program joined in showing appreciation for the officials work which, no matter what our prolific pontificators might think about the crew's work, struck me as quite unusual, especially in the losing city.

I wonder what Obama thought.

[btaylor64]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I've heard the same thought expressed. I've never found it convincing. The problem with that technique is that it leaves the upset individual still able to punch you while you attempt to restrain him, but at the same time not restrain him.

Well thats the decision you have to make. You can either allow them to square off and handle everything afterwards or you can step in and try to avoid ejecting anyone by getting in there so no one throws a punch. Its totally up to your descretion, but most in the league feel like if they can get between the two and remove the "retaliator" not the "instigator" from the frey then things can calm down and order can be restored a lot quicker.

[grunewar]

I once had an evaluator/trainer tell me that if a fight breaks out in a game it's because we as officials let the game get out of control or missed something we should have caught. While I agree in principle, I told him don't believe this is an absolute. Thoughts?

[bas2456]

There are only 6 eyes to cover 10 players...no way we can see everything. Fights don't always come out of physical play. We don't have bionic ears either.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by grunewar

I once had an evaluator/trainer tell me that if a fight breaks out in a game it's because we as officials let the game get out of control or missed something we should have caught. While I agree in principle, I told him don't believe this is an absolute. Thoughts?

[Nevadaref]

To add another strange item to this series there was a scoring mistake on a basket in the first quarter (a 3pt was recorded as only a 2) which was just fixed with 5:44 remaining in the 4th quarter!

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

To add another strange item to this series there was a scoring mistake on a basket in the first quarter (a 3pt was recorded as only a 2) which was just fixed with 5:44 remaining in the 4th quarter!

Any word on how the mistake was discovered so long after the play?

[AKOFL]

Any thoughts on the double T in the fourth quarter? Didn't seem like alot to me. Maybe there was something going on for the last few possesions.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Any word on how the mistake was discovered so long after the play?

While this doesn't exactly answer the question, it is from the NBA.com website:

After three consecutive overtime games, the series went from Odyssey to oddity when an unusual scoring correction helped the Bulls cut the deficit to three points in the fourth quarter.

With 5:44 left in the game, the public address announcer said that because of a "technical error'' Gordon was credited with a 2-pointer instead of a 3-pointer, apparently on his basket with 8:32 left in the first quarter. Officials can use video replay to check whether a shot is from beyond the arc or not, but it is supposed to come at the first break after the basket - not three quarters later.

Gordon's shot had been reviewed at the break that came with 3:37 left in the first, the scoresheet said.

Entire article is at: NBA.com Scoring error brings Bulls closer during timeout