Stay out of my pond!

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

Here's a screenshot of the play - trail is just off screen, straddling the centre line, and then takes two steps along the sideline, into the FC.

That's the problem. They were playing with a "centre" line. No wonder things got messed up. Everyone was metrically disoriented.

[tomegun]

If we were to say there was contact, are some people suggesting that a player with his back to the offensive player is responsible for that player trying to run past him? Wouldn't this open up a can of worms since any player could simply run into a player that doesn't see him/her and get a foul called?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by tomegun

If we were to say there was contact, are some people suggesting that a player with his back to the offensive player is responsible for that player trying to run past him? Wouldn't this open up a can of worms since any player could simply run into a player that doesn't see him/her and get a foul called?

You make a good point and one which I would agree with it the defender simply maintained his normal stance, but in this play he took a long stride to his left by extending his left leg out past the frame of his shoulders. IMO that put his leg out there in an illegal position. It doesn't matter whether he did it with knowledge of where the opponent was or not.

We know that a player is not allowed to extend his arms or legs into the path of an opponent. If contact occurs under those circumstances, that player must bear the responsibility for the contact. That's why I think that this play was a foul.

[dahoopref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Who was the foul called on, #1, or #2, only then can we continue to have a reasonable discussion about this.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

From ESPN.com play-by-play Kansas Jayhawks vs. Michigan State Spartans - Play by Play - March 27, 2009 - ESPN
0:32 Foul on Raymar Morgan

Morgan, #2.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by dahoopref

Morgan, #2.

Thanks.

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

That's the problem. They were playing with a "centre" line. No wonder things got messed up. Everyone was metrically disoriented.

It's what happens when you refuse to play FIBA like everybody else