Closely Guarded Count

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Fritz

Watched a lot of basketball this past week, like everyone else, but had a question about a closely guarded count. Does the player with the ball have to be facing the defender for there to be a CG count? Don't see that in the rules, but saw several situations where the offensive player would have the ball with his back to the basket, just outside the lane, and be dribbling trying to set up the defender for a post move. But no CG count was shown by the official. I wouldn't consider a few set-up dribbles to be actual moves to the basket, so why wouldn't you have a count here?

Hard to say, but please remember moving to the basket is irrrelevant for a closely guarded count. Three second counts are different.

[M&M Guy]

Another possibility is that since you mentioned the player with the ball had their back to the basket, that player is most likely a post player, therefore the L would have on-ball coverage, and the L never has the 5-sec. count in NCAA-M or Fed.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Another possibility is that since you mentioned the player with the ball had their back to the basket, that player is most likely a post player, therefore the L would have on-ball coverage, and the L never has the 5-sec. count in NCAA-M or Fed.

Really?

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Really?

I've been told that many times, by many different sources.

I don't happen to agree with it, however.

[mick]

Anyone noticing some very long seconds between the counts ?

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by mick

Anyone noticing some very long seconds between the counts ?

Concur. We were in the Chat Room the other night discussing this issue - one ref (forget which game) kept spreading his arms and the defender was almost touching the offensive player. Seems inconsistent at best.

[SAK]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Another possibility is that since you mentioned the player with the ball had their back to the basket, that player is most likely a post player, therefore the L would have on-ball coverage, and the L never has the 5-sec. count in NCAA-M or Fed.

Really?????????????? What about a 2 man game?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SAK

Really?????????????? What about a 2 man game?

I really hope you are not equating his comments to 2 Person? This was not a 2 Person game.

Peace

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by SAK

Really?????????????? What about a 2 man game?

It's apparent we're talking 3 man in this thread.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by fullor30

It's apparent we're talking 3 man in this thread.

That is obvious unless Steve Welmer broke his foot again?

Peace

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

That is obvious unless Steve Welmer broke his foot again?

Peace

Well that's why they have alternates in the tourney..oh wait that was a joke right?