Az Missed Dunk.....Travel

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by mu4scott

Shaw had to come in w/ something. He sold it well and bailed out his two partners, especially the "C".

That's exactly what happened. Of the 13 people on the floor, Curtis Shaw was the only one who knew what was going on. He blew the travel on the AZ player before the Utah player could do anything with it.

[APG]

Wait, am I missing something? What did Arizona do illegal? Arizona misses dunk, teammate rebounds ball, and subsequently drops the ball. Then a Utah player grabbed the ball and traveled with it. Shouldn't the ball have gone to Arizona on the baseline instead of giving back to Utah?

[LocDog249]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Wait, am I missing something? What did Arizona do illegal? Arizona misses dunk, teammate rebounds ball, and subsequently drops the ball. Then a Utah player grabbed the ball and traveled with it. Shouldn't the ball have gone to Arizona on the baseline instead of giving back to Utah?

Yes... The ball should have gone to Arizona OOB. I watched the reply about a dozen times, and the AZ player gets the ball and just tosses it behind him to the ground, as if giving it to Utah for what he thought was an ensuing inbounds. The Utah player definitely traveled with the ball. It was the right call on the wrong team.

[KingTripleJump]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Wait, am I missing something? What did Arizona do illegal? Arizona misses dunk, teammate rebounds ball, and subsequently drops the ball. Then a Utah player grabbed the ball and traveled with it. Shouldn't the ball have gone to Arizona on the baseline instead of giving back to Utah?

Yes... The ball should have gone to Arizona OOB. I watched the reply about a dozen times, and the AZ player gets the ball and just tosses it behind him to the ground, as if giving it to Utah for what he thought was an ensuing inbounds. The Utah player definitely traveled with the ball. It was the right call on the wrong team.

The ball has to go completely through the net for it to count as a basket. In the case of the Arizona player's dunk, the ball didn't do that.

It was the correct call.

(Of course, I'm going by memory as I watched that entire game yesterday.)

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by KingTripleJump

The ball has to go completely through the net for it to count as a basket. In the case of the Arizona player's dunk, the ball didn't do that.

It was the correct call.

I think everyone agrees that it was no basket. The question is who, if anyone, committed a violation. What was your idea about the call?

[KingTripleJump]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I think everyone agrees that it was no basket. The question is who, if anyone, committed a violation. What was your idea about the call?

Once again, I preface this by saying I'm going solely on memory from watching the game and I haven't looked at any replay.

But from my memory, I don't remember saying to myself the U of A player actually committed a violation. But I do remember that play happening and everyone just stopping and freezing cause they were caught off guard. That's when Shaw stepped in.

[LocDog249]

Originally Posted by KingTripleJump

The ball has to go completely through the net for it to count as a basket. In the case of the Arizona player's dunk, the ball didn't do that.

It was the correct call.

(Of course, I'm going by memory as I watched that entire game yesterday.)

How is it the correct call? If you watch the video again, you will see the AZ player who caught it didn't violate. The only violation came when the Utah player caught it. He seemed a little surprised, like he didn't know if it counted or not. He then traveled with the ball.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

That's exactly what happened. Of the 13 people on the floor, Curtis Shaw was the only one who knew what was going on. He blew the travel on the AZ player before the Utah player could do anything with it.

Except that no one on AZ travelled with the ball. A1 missed the dunk, and A2 rebounded the ball and immediately dropped it. Shaw blew his whistle when the B1 had the ball and it was B1 who travelled but Team B ended up with the throw-in.

All in all not a big deal but the correct call was not made.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Except that no one on AZ travelled with the ball. A1 missed the dunk, and A2 rebounded the ball and immediately dropped it. Shaw blew his whistle when the B1 had the ball and it was B1 who travelled but Team B ended up with the throw-in.

All in all not a big deal but the correct call was not made.

I'm pretty sure A2 took a few steps, based off of my memory.

[LocDog249]

Originally Posted by Matt

I'm pretty sure A2 took a few steps, based off of my memory.

He did not.

[eyezen]

Here it is, unfortunately typical crappy youtube quality

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by eyezen

Here it is, unfortunately typical crappy youtube quality

Didn't see this play before this clip....


What should have been called was BI on the shooter...A1 (Arizona).

After that, the A2 (Arizona) touched the ball but did NOT travel....he wasn't touching the ball long enough for his feet to have moved while touching it. The defensive player he flipped it (Utah) to did travel before starting a dribble.

While the usually sharp Mr. Shaw was on his toes in recognizing something goofy and illegal just happened, he didn't get it quite right.

[LocDog249]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

What should have been called was BI on the shooter...A1 (Arizona).

While I don't have an NCAA rule book handy, I would think BI is pretty much the same as in NFHS where a dunk is legal and not considered BI. It was just an odd play where he cause it to come back out. But not BI.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Except that no one on AZ travelled with the ball. A1 missed the dunk, and A2 rebounded the ball and immediately dropped it. Shaw blew his whistle when the B1 had the ball and it was B1 who travelled but Team B ended up with the throw-in.

All in all not a big deal but the correct call was not made.

Agreed.