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grunewar Sat Mar 21, 2009 07:29am

Az Missed Dunk.....Travel
 
Anyone see this play in the Arizona game?

Player goes in for a "routine dunk" and the ball doesn't go all the way through the net but bounces off his body/shoulder and goes back-up through the top of the basket. Utah player "rebounds" the ball about six feet from the basket and kinda doesn't know what to do with it. His teammate and he just stand there and look at each other for an awkward few seconds. The rebounder then takes a few steps. TWEET!!!

Most of the players were transitioning to the other end of the court and weren't paying attention. The new T missed it for some reason. C is all over it and comes from mid-court and properly gives the traveling signal. Good call on an awkward situation.

PS - Actually good camera work and announcing too - props to CBS in this case.

All_Heart Sat Mar 21, 2009 09:40am

:eek: Wow that was an interesting play. You can watch it by going here and then clicking on "Brackets / Games On Demand" and then the Arizona / Utah game and then click Highlights. It is near the end at with 0:38 left in the game.

The Trail (not really the "old" trail b/c the play never ended) was the one that called the travel. It also should have been a travel on the Utah player not the Arizona player but what a great job by the trail official.

Thanks for posting it!

grunewar Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:11am

Your right, it was the new L/old T that called the travel from mid-court. Unfortunaely, this highlight doesn't show it. The original call on TV was great.

And, it WAS Utah that got called for the travel, not Az. Great film, thanks for posting it.

Raymond Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:09am

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 590141)
Your right, it was the new L/old T that called the travel from mid-court. Unfortunaely, this highlight doesn't show it. The original call on TV was great.

And, it WAS Utah that got called for the travel, not Az. Great film, thanks for posting it.

Utah took the ball out on the ensuing throw-in so AZ must have been whistled for the travel.

bigdogrunnin Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:29am

The calling official on this now infamous play . . . none other than the esteemed Curtis "Quick Draw" Shaw. Damn fine call too.

Raymond Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:57am

Actually the AZ player with dreads catches the ball and drops it. Then the little Utah player grabs the ball, takes 2 steps, then dribbles. AZ should have taken the ball out under their own basket.

grunewar Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:01pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 590167)
Actually the AZ player with dreads catches the ball and drops it. Then the little Utah player grabs the ball, takes 2 steps, then dribbles. AZ should have taken the ball out under their own basket.

That's what I thought happened, but alas, CBS cut away......

All_Heart Sat Mar 21, 2009 01:04pm

From the ESPN Play-by-Play

All of the following are Arizona Players
<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="oddrow"><td valign="top" width="50">0:38</td><td valign="top">Jamelle Horne missed Two Point Dunk Shot.</td><td valign="top" align="center" nowrap="nowrap">80-69</td><td valign="top"> </td></tr> <tr class="evenrow"><td valign="top" width="50">0:38</td><td valign="top">Jordan Hill Offensive Rebound.</td><td valign="top" align="center" nowrap="nowrap">80-69</td><td valign="top"> </td></tr> <tr class="oddrow"><td valign="top" width="50">0:38</td><td valign="top">Jordan Hill Turnover.</td><td valign="top" align="center" nowrap="nowrap">80-69</td><td valign="top"> </td></tr></tbody></table>

mu4scott Sat Mar 21, 2009 09:00pm

Shaw had to come in w/ something. He sold it well and bailed out his two partners, especially the "C" who looked totally lost.

BktBallRef Sat Mar 21, 2009 09:48pm

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Originally Posted by mu4scott (Post 590287)
Shaw had to come in w/ something. He sold it well and bailed out his two partners, especially the "C".

That's exactly what happened. Of the 13 people on the floor, Curtis Shaw was the only one who knew what was going on. He blew the travel on the AZ player before the Utah player could do anything with it.

APG Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:10pm

Confused
 
Wait, am I missing something? :confused: What did Arizona do illegal? Arizona misses dunk, teammate rebounds ball, and subsequently drops the ball. Then a Utah player grabbed the ball and traveled with it. Shouldn't the ball have gone to Arizona on the baseline instead of giving back to Utah? :confused:

LocDog249 Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:12am

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 590297)
Wait, am I missing something? :confused: What did Arizona do illegal? Arizona misses dunk, teammate rebounds ball, and subsequently drops the ball. Then a Utah player grabbed the ball and traveled with it. Shouldn't the ball have gone to Arizona on the baseline instead of giving back to Utah? :confused:

Yes... The ball should have gone to Arizona OOB. I watched the reply about a dozen times, and the AZ player gets the ball and just tosses it behind him to the ground, as if giving it to Utah for what he thought was an ensuing inbounds. The Utah player definitely traveled with the ball. It was the right call on the wrong team.

KingTripleJump Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:27am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 590297)
Wait, am I missing something? :confused: What did Arizona do illegal? Arizona misses dunk, teammate rebounds ball, and subsequently drops the ball. Then a Utah player grabbed the ball and traveled with it. Shouldn't the ball have gone to Arizona on the baseline instead of giving back to Utah? :confused:


Quote:

Yes... The ball should have gone to Arizona OOB. I watched the reply about a dozen times, and the AZ player gets the ball and just tosses it behind him to the ground, as if giving it to Utah for what he thought was an ensuing inbounds. The Utah player definitely traveled with the ball. It was the right call on the wrong team.

The ball has to go completely through the net for it to count as a basket. In the case of the Arizona player's dunk, the ball didn't do that.

It was the correct call.

(Of course, I'm going by memory as I watched that entire game yesterday.)

just another ref Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:31am

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingTripleJump (Post 590321)
The ball has to go completely through the net for it to count as a basket. In the case of the Arizona player's dunk, the ball didn't do that.

It was the correct call.


I think everyone agrees that it was no basket. The question is who, if anyone, committed a violation. What was your idea about the call?

LocDog249 Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:35am

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingTripleJump (Post 590321)
The ball has to go completely through the net for it to count as a basket. In the case of the Arizona player's dunk, the ball didn't do that.

It was the correct call.

(Of course, I'm going by memory as I watched that entire game yesterday.)

How is it the correct call? If you watch the video again, you will see the AZ player who caught it didn't violate. The only violation came when the Utah player caught it. He seemed a little surprised, like he didn't know if it counted or not. He then traveled with the ball.


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