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Old Sun Mar 15, 2009, 04:47pm
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let's look at the monitor

In NCAA can the officials go to the monitor to decide if they should award a one-and-one or two throws after a foul is called? Ed Hightower seemed to do this in the Big Ten Championship game.
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Old Sun Mar 15, 2009, 04:56pm
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In NCAA can the officials go to the monitor to decide if they should award a one-and-one or two throws after a foul is called? Ed Hightower seemed to do this in the Big Ten Championship game.

No, you cannot do that. However, I watch Ed, Teddy, and John Cahill a few weeks ago go to the monitor to determine whether the foul was in the act of shooting or should be a 1 and 1. Apparently, if you spend more time on tv than Oprah, the rules don't matter and you can use the monitor anytime you want to, even if the rules don't allow it. Obviously, there were no repercussions from what they did. He's still in every big game.

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Old Sun Mar 15, 2009, 04:58pm
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It didn't slow things down at all and if it helped them get it right I guess that is what is important.
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Getting it right is one thing, but going outside what the rules allow is another. The rulebook is very specific on what he "shall" and "may" use the monitor to determine. Neither of these is in the book at the present time. It's completely ridiculous that some people are allowed to do whatever they want just because they have a name. Doing things like that opens up a huge can of worms, in the game. Coaches will want you reviewing everything that happens.
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Very good point!
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Getting it right is one thing, but going outside what the rules allow is another. The rulebook is very specific on what he "shall" and "may" use the monitor to determine. Neither of these is in the book at the present time. It's completely ridiculous that some people are allowed to do whatever they want just because they have a name. Doing things like that opens up a huge can of worms, in the game. Coaches will want you reviewing everything that happens.
So you talked to the officials and know what they were looking at the monitor for?

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Old Sun Mar 15, 2009, 06:07pm
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Good call Jeff.

I believe they went to the monitor, because Ohio State tried to send the wrong guy to the line to shoot the FT's, and the officials wanted to get the right shooter.
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If I remember correctly, they looked once to see if they had the right shooter and another to see if it was a two or a three. Though when they looked to get the right shooter, it seemed that they went from a non-shooting foul to a shooting foul (though the commentators may have just missed the original signal of two shots...definitely wouldn't be the first time)
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Old Sun Mar 15, 2009, 08:44pm
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If I remember correctly, they looked once to see if they had the right shooter and another to see if it was a two or a three. Though when they looked to get the right shooter, it seemed that they went from a non-shooting foul to a shooting foul (though the commentators may have just missed the original signal of two shots...definitely wouldn't be the first time)
And this is the reason why I asked the question. Unless any of us know what the officials did by talking to them, we cannot listen to the commentators as the law.

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Old Mon Mar 16, 2009, 10:21am
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The crew in the SEC championship game went to the monitor to check if the ball hadn't been touched by the offense as it was going into the hoop on a foul. I can't remember which team or who, etc., but I thought was unusual as well.
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Old Mon Mar 16, 2009, 11:27am
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If I remember correctly, they looked once to see if they had the right shooter and another to see if it was a two or a three. Though when they looked to get the right shooter, it seemed that they went from a non-shooting foul to a shooting foul (though the commentators may have just missed the original signal of two shots...definitely wouldn't be the first time)
Not a basketball official but I enjoy reading posts from other sports. The play I remember was Hightower called a non-shooting foul underneath the hoop on a hold off a pass. He called the foul and pointed at the offender and then stepped onto the floor with both arms raised and the index finger raised. Some time passed, and when the FT's were to be administrated Diebler was at the line, but he wasn't the shooter (he was at half court when the foul happened). The Lead official indicated 1-1 and was ready to throw to the shooter, but they were interuppted.The crew was a little confused it seemed and they went to the monitor briefly and put the correct shooter on the line, and then signaled two shots. All the players on the lane line tried making a play on the first shot, it was missed, thinking it was still a 1-1. Don't know why it changed other than maybe it was the 10th foul to go into the double bonus and hightower didn't know that yet. Just describing the situation that I remember.
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My post was deleted but I predicted a replay review involving Hightower and Deibler.
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