could I have fixed this?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by just another ref

There is also a line which states: "Some adjustments will be made on the calling..........to provide a maximum learning experience for all."

I have no problem believing that righting this wrong by the official helped to maximize the experience.

I guess our opinions are just going to differ because I happen to believe that incorrectly fixing this misses that opportunity for a learning experience.

Teaching the kids wrongly doesn't teach them anything.

[AKOFL]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I guess our opinions are just going to differ because I happen to believe that incorrectly fixing this misses that opportunity for a learning experience.

Teaching the kids wrongly doesn't teach them anything.

Did you teach your kids about Santa?

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by AKOFL

Did you teach your kids about Santa?

You're kidding right?

[AKOFL]

Originally Posted by grunewar

You're kidding right?

Yes. heavy on the sarcasm. In this sit the kids would have learned more, I think, if the official had got it right. I know the rules do not allow for this, But the level of ball does come in to play. It's just a bummer that this ooops cost a team the game. We know the rules but anyone that doesn't say they "wanted to correct this" needs some help. They did the right thing not correcting it, but it's still a sad sit.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I guess our opinions are just going to differ because I happen to believe that incorrectly fixing this misses that opportunity for a learning experience.

Teaching the kids wrongly doesn't teach them anything.

The point in this case was actually not the learning, but that it is written that adjustments will be made. A fifth grade game and a varsity game are not the same game. Prime example: In our league, we shoot no free throws at all during the regular season, and only in the last 30 seconds of a close (6 points or less) game during the tournament. The reason? There are very few players that can make a free throw. They do not add to the quality of the game, especially not relative to the amount of time they take. In Nevada, if you want to line 'em up and shoot and call all those lane violations, be my guest.

[SmokeEater]

At this level of play you need to decide, Do you want to be right or get it right?

[bradfordwilkins]

Technically if the "official" (for this league) rules allow the referee discresion to adjust a rule for learning purposes, then I think he has (in a weird end around) followed the rules as written.

When you talk about teaching them the wrong thing -- I think teaching them to use deception to get an advantage would be worse than teaching them that as much as possible the "right" call will be made.

These are 5th graders for heaven's sakes -- they are LEARNING the game, there is nothing on the line except their pride, happiness, etc. They are playing organized basketball to have FUN (hopefully). No scholarships are going to won or lost based on the results of the game... which is where it'd differentiate from a high school or college game, imo.