So, how'd you like a game to start like THIS?

[just another ref]

I don't see that this meets the requirements for the T or the delay warning. Somebody spell it out for me.

[Old_School]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I don't see that this meets the requirements for the T or the delay warning. Somebody spell it out for me.

R-u-l-e 10 - 3 - 5 - a . . . . . d-e-l-a-y t-h-e g-a-m-e b-y p-r-e-v-e-n-t-i-n-g t-h-e b-a-l-l f-r-o-m b-e-i-n-g m-a-d-e l-i-v-e o-r f-r-o-m b-e-i-n-g p-u-t i-n p-l-a-y.


O-K ?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Old_School

R-u-l-e 10 - 3 - 6 - a . . . . . d-e-l-a-y t-h-e g-a-m-e b-y p-r-e-v-e-n-t-i-n-g t-h-e b-a-l-l f-r-o-m b-e-i-n-g m-a-d-e l-i-v-e o-r f-r-o-m b-e-i-n-g p-u-t i-n p-l-a-y.


O-K ?

Not O-K. The rule you quote is actually 10-1-5-b and the case book examples given are nothing like this.

[just another ref]

As far as a player drawing attention to himself, is this any different than the
strutting/high fives/chest bumping that goes on when the starting lineups are introduced?

[Old_School]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Not O-K. The rule you quote is actually 10-1-5-b and the case book examples given are nothing like this.

If it will make you feel better, use 10-1-5-b. That language meets the requirements for a T in this situation also.

O-K ?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Old_School

If it will make you feel better, use 10-1-5-b. That language meets the requirements for a T in this situation also.

O-K ?

Still not OK. I see you actually meant 10-3-5a originally. These rules deal with players not being where they are supposed to be or players slapping the ball away, etc. thus preventing the ball from being put in play.
The play at hand does not seem to fit this rule, in my opinion.

During introductions, A1 bends over and slaps the floor, and dislodges a tile.
There is delay while the floor is repaired.

A1 is unable to play due to a stomach virus, but is in uniform for the game.
He pukes on the court during warmups. The start of the game is delayed for cleanup.

You gonna call a T for these?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by just another ref

A1 is unable to play due to a stomach virus, but is in uniform for the game. He pukes on the court during warmups. The start of the game is delayed for cleanup.

You gonna call a T for these?

No, as I have said before, puking on the court is a violation for an illegal dribble.

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by just another ref

During introductions, A1 bends over and slaps the floor, and dislodges a tile.
There is delay while the floor is repaired.

unforseen consequence of that action

Originally Posted by just another ref

A1 is unable to play due to a stomach virus, but is in uniform for the game.
He pukes on the court during warmups. The start of the game is delayed for cleanup.

While forseeable still accidental and therefore an exception.

The tossing of the Chalk has a reasonable, foreseeable and preventable outcome, and therefore would be a lot easier to back up with an assignor.
Yes they are readyto play but the direct, and controlable actions of their teammate caused the delay by making the facility unplayable.

While I would be trying not to have to make this call if possible, I can at least back it up.

[Old_School]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Still not OK. I see you actually meant 10-3-5a originally. These rules deal with players not being where they are supposed to be or players slapping the ball away, etc. thus preventing the ball from being put in play.
The play at hand does not seem to fit this rule, in my opinion.

During introductions, A1 bends over and slaps the floor, and dislodges a tile.
There is delay while the floor is repaired.

A1 is unable to play due to a stomach virus, but is in uniform for the game.
He pukes on the court during warmups. The start of the game is delayed for cleanup.

You gonna call a T for these?

I meant 10-3-5a originally. I used last year's book to give the old rules citation. I have now gone back and changed it. That rule isn't applicable anyway because the person who threw the powder in the air wasn't a "player". He was still "bench personnel" because the game hadn't started yet. I realized that after I posted.

Rule 10-1-5b is still easily applicable though. It says that it's a team T to allow the game to develop into an actionless contest through delaying the game by preventing the ball being made promptly live or from being put in play. The person being introduced did delay the ball being made promptly live on the opening jump by his actions.

The plays that you outlined above have nothing to do with the play being discussed. They are irrelevant.

O-K ?

[OHBBREF]

really referes to restarting the game after a time out and the resumption of play procedures,(7-5-1 and 8-1-2)for a throw in or a free throw, then issueing a Technical after the complete cycle of proceedure.