How'd we do?

[bard]

I was told to start officiating with 7th graders, because I would see it all. No kidding...

A1 shoots and makes his 2nd free throw. A2 quickly inbounds with a long pass to A3 running in the other direction. A3 is heading for a layup when he is fouled by B1 before he gets the shot off. Me? I'm feeling good because I beat these guys down the floor and had a good angle to call the foul!

Of course, unlike me, all of you experts are aware that the wrong team inbounded the ball!!

Our solution: we put 5 seconds back on the clock, ignored the foul, and gave team B the inbounds that they should have had. Was this reasonable?

PS. The next time A scored, they started to inbounds again--caught that one!

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by bard
I was told to start officiating with 7th graders, because I would see it all. No kidding...

A1 shoots and makes his 2nd free throw. A2 quickly inbounds with a long pass to A3 running in the other direction. A3 is heading for a layup when he is fouled by B1 before he gets the shot off. Me? I'm feeling good because I beat these guys down the floor and had a good angle to call the foul!

Of course, unlike me, all of you experts are aware that the wrong team inbounded the ball!!

Our solution: we put 5 seconds back on the clock, ignored the foul, and gave team B the inbounds that they should have had. Was this reasonable?

PS. The next time A scored, they started to inbounds again--caught that one!

NOt only was it reasonable, it was right by rule.

See 10.1.8

[ranjo]

I agree that for a 7th grade game your response was reasonable, but by rule there are only 5 correctable errors and this was not one of them. See Rule 2 Section 10 Art.1.

Rule 10-1-8 applies to unsportsman like fouls. (Bob, did you just hit the wrong keys?) If I thought the inbounding play was intentional, I believe, but can't find the casebook play right now, it could be classified as a T.

[crew]

ranjo,
its 7th grade! kids just wanna play and have fun. wierd things like this happen, the kids get excited and dont think. i like what bard did erase everything start over.
good job bard

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by ranjo
I agree that for a 7th grade game your response was reasonable, but by rule there are only 5 correctable errors and this was not one of them. See Rule 2 Section 10 Art.1.

Rule 10-1-8 applies to unsportsman like fouls. (Bob, did you just hit the wrong keys?) If I thought the inbounding play was intentional, I believe, but can't find the casebook play right now, it could be classified as a T.

ranjo, I'm afraid that you're wrong. 10.1.8 is a case book play, not a rule. Rules are 10-1-8. Case plays are 10.1.8.

Bob's reference is directly on point. bard handled the situation exactly as he should have. This correctable, because it did not result from an officiating misapplication or a table error. If this sitaution was not correctable, teams would be pulling this stunt all the time and we would be unable to do anything about it.

[ranjo]

BktBallRef - In the years I have been doing this I never noticed the difference in the 10-1-8 vs 10.1.8. - I agree you are absolutely correct.

Thats why I love this forum. - You get to make mistakes that don't penalize a team unjustly, or give a coach a chance to jump on your case.

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by ranjo
BktBallRef - In the years I have been doing this I never noticed the difference in the 10-1-8 vs 10.1.8. - I agree you are absolutely correct.

This standard is printed on the inside front cover of last year's case book. I think it's on this year's as well, but I don't have it handy to check.

[JAdams]

I've seen this happen at the girls varsity level, too, early in a season. Seventh graders have nothing on them.

[Hawks Coach]

Do I now have to go back and edit my responses to make sure any rule references have dashes? Every time you think you know what you are doing . . .