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Old Mon Oct 05, 2009, 10:00am
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Just finished the test but could not find rule on two questions so thought I would ask the experts on the board. #94-"Basket interference may occur during a free-throw attempt." I can't see why not, but can't find the rule. Also, #62-"During free-throw attempts resulting from technical foul, substitutes may be made only after the final attempt has been converted". My original thought is that substitutes have to wait until both technical free-throws are attempted.

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Old Mon Oct 05, 2009, 10:27am
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True. BI can occur on a throw-in for that matter.

False. That rule only applies to FTs for personal fouls.
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Reference/Citation?
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Old Thu Oct 29, 2009, 07:58am
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4-Basket Interference. Contrast the wording with 4-Goaltending.
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Old Thu Oct 29, 2009, 10:04am
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Also, #62-"During free-throw attempts resulting from technical foul, substitutes may be made only after the final attempt has been converted". My original thought is that substitutes have to wait until both technical free-throws are attempted.
We had a good discussion on this a few weeks back:

substitution question
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Old Fri Oct 30, 2009, 09:09pm
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True. BI can occur on a throw-in for that matter.
How can you have BI on a throw in? If ball pass through without touching player first, it's a throw in violation. If it touches a player, then it's a shot followed by BI.
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Old Fri Oct 30, 2009, 09:15pm
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How can you have BI on a throw in?
Ball enters the cylinder. Player touches the ball or the basket. Basket interference.
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Old Fri Oct 30, 2009, 09:40pm
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Ball enters the cylinder. Player touches the ball or the basket. Basket interference.
Okay, BI does not have to be during a shot. My bad.
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Old Fri Oct 30, 2009, 11:16pm
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So then if the throw-in started from outside the 3 point arc, is it a 2 or 3?
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Old Fri Oct 30, 2009, 11:24pm
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So then if the throw-in started from outside the 3 point arc, is it a 2 or 3?
Surely you jest.
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Old Fri Oct 30, 2009, 11:24pm
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NFHS 9-11 Penalty 1. If the violation is at the opponent’s basket, the opponents are awarded one point if during a free throw, three points if during a three-point try and two points in any other case.

A throw-in is not a try

NFHS 4-41-2 "A try for field goal is an attempt by a player to score two or three points by throwing the ball into a team’s own basket. A player is trying for goal when the player has the ball and in the official’s judgment is throwing or attempting to throw for goal. It is not essential that the ball leave the player’s hand as a foul could prevent release of the ball."

I believe that technically every throw-in starts outside the three point arc as the definition of the three point line indicates that it ends at the inside edge of the OOB line.
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Ball enters the cylinder. Player touches the ball or the basket. Basket interference.
It is not basket interference if the player touches the basket while the ball is in the cylinder. It is basket interference if the player touches the basket while the ball is touching the basket, or is in the basket.

It's one of the Most Misunderstood Basketball Rules: A player cannot touch the ball, ring, or net while the ball is on the ring or within the basket. A player cannot touch the ball if it is in the imaginary cylinder above the ring. These are examples of basket interference. It is legal to touch the ring or the net if the ball is above the ring and not touching the ring, even if the ball is in the imaginary cylinder above the ring.
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So then if the throw-in started from outside the 3 point arc, is it a 2 or 3?
A player eighty feet away from the basket throws the ball into the air as high as it can possibly go without hitting the ceiling. The trajectory of the ball is such that the ball reaches the apex of its arc, and then descends in such a manner that it bounces about two inches behind the three point line, bouncing high into the air, after which it enters the basket. Two points, because the try ends when the throw is certain to be unsuccessful, or when the thrown ball touches the floor. Also, if the horn ending the period sounds while the ball is in the middle of its trajectory from the floor to the basket, before it enters the basket, then the ball becomes dead, and the basket will not count.
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Old Sat Oct 31, 2009, 01:03am
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It is not basket interference if the player touches the basket while the ball is in the cylinder.
Yeah, yeah. But the ball had to enter the cylinder before it could be on or in the basket. My answer was the simplified, condensed version of how it could be BI on a throw-in, not a full report of the BI rule itself.

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Old Sat Oct 31, 2009, 01:14am
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