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Old Tue Feb 17, 2009, 02:12am
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Ref puts team B's star player at line.
It is a technical foul for a player to knowingly accept a free throw to which he is not entitled. But who can say what the player knew or didn't know. Even when the wrong shooter goes to the line, and is replaced by the officials with the correct shooter, it is difficult to call the technical in this situation. If, as per your quote above, did the officials put him at the line, or did they simply accept whoever stepped up to the line? If they put him there, it can be nothing more than an officials mistake, and a done deal. If the wrong player stepped to the line, intentionally or otherwise, and this was not immediately addressed by the official, from a rules standpoint it's still a done deal.
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Old Tue Feb 17, 2009, 05:34am
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In games played by 9 year olds, pretty much every play at least two or three kids are fouled. The only question would be, "Which player did the officials call the foul on?" As others have said, it may be that the official was indeed calling a foul on the player that was defending the "star" player. It's also highly likely these officials are very, very inexperienced and don't always notice who took the foul, so the wrong player could have inadvertently stepped to the line. I doubt highly this was intentional, thus no T would be warranted.

All that being said, I think those parents, coaches and others who are making this into a federal case, and wanting to show their video to a judge somewhere need to get lives. Tell them to exert their righteous indignation on more important issues than whether or not 9 year old kids do or don't make the play-offs.

Furthermore, no 9 year old leagues should have play-offs. Way, way too much pressure to put on such young kids.
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Old Tue Feb 17, 2009, 12:09pm
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In games played by 9 year olds, pretty much every play at least two or three kids are fouled. The only question would be, "Which player did the officials call the foul on?" As others have said, it may be that the official was indeed calling a foul on the player that was defending the "star" player. It's also highly likely these officials are very, very inexperienced and don't always notice who took the foul, so the wrong player could have inadvertently stepped to the line. I doubt highly this was intentional, thus no T would be warranted.

All that being said, I think those parents, coaches and others who are making this into a federal case, and wanting to show their video to a judge somewhere need to get lives. Tell them to exert their righteous indignation on more important issues than whether or not 9 year old kids do or don't make the play-offs.

Furthermore, no 9 year old leagues should have play-offs. Way, way too much pressure to put on such young kids
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Just two or three being fouled? I'll throw in sometimes two or three being fouled and two or three doing the fouling!

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Old Tue Feb 17, 2009, 08:40pm
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I can't thank everyone enough. I greatly appreciate the time everyone put into providing the informative e-mails. Great site.

I really began to loose my mind with this today. Game was Saturday! and even now in our town there have literaly been a half dozen emails written followed by calls from Team A insisting that Team B should forfeit this win as "undeserved." Typical small town stuff.

Every time we (Team B) and league address this along the lines indicated in these emails ...its a call guys in a U10 game move on ... just enjoy it for what it was a good exciting game its over. Then another call or email.

I think I understand the rule now. Not that I ever care or plan to share it or revisit this issue.

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