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Old Mon Feb 16, 2009, 09:26am
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.... and tossed my clipboard to the floor the way I do in every game all game long. I drop it straight down with a little spin so it lands flat next to the end of the bench. I wasn't doing it out of anger or anything, .........

Well the ref decided to throw out a parent because the parent was telling him to get the calls right. He wasn't cussing or anything.
It sounds like you had a rough game.
I would suggest you stop your clipboard tossing. Many officials, especially in a heated game, take that as a sign of coach anger, and will "T" (lesson learned?).

Of course, its a HTBT sich, but if the crowd is yelling, how could you hear exactly what 1 person said to the official to get escorted out? Of course, listening to the escorted fan's excuse doesnt count!
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Old Mon Feb 16, 2009, 10:00am
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(lesson learned?).

Of course, its a HTBT sich, but if the crowd is yelling, how could you hear exactly what 1 person said to the official to get escorted out? Of course, listening to the escorted fan's excuse doesnt count!
Well definitely lesson learned for that game as I watched my P's and Q's the rest of the way. I heard a lot of what he was yelling at the ref and it was mostly "why don't you get the call right? how about giving us the same calls that you're giving the other team?" etc. Then there was the blown OB call as well that he kept yelling that it wasn't their ball. Everyone could hear because at the point he was telling the refs there weren't too many people saying anything then. It was just a bad situation. Even though when I got outside with the parent that I agreed with his assesment of the calls I let him know that he needed to cool down. I just felt that the ref jumped early tossing him but that's just my opinion. I'm curious how many on this board have tossed a fan because they were upset at the calls and yelling out disapproval? Is this common?
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Old Mon Feb 16, 2009, 10:05am
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I've only tossed one fan in my career, only because he was truly an ucking fidiot and needed to be gone. I've had a few others, at HS subvarsity levels, that most of us should ignore, but I've sometimes offered my whistle and game fee to see if they had the cajoles to be out there with us. They shut up so fast people are actually laughing at them. One time I did it in front of the police chief, who I found out later had graduated HS with the dude I offered the whistle to. Chief paid me a compliement later, and said he just might use my example to his officers.
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Old Mon Feb 16, 2009, 10:12am
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I'm curious how many on this board have tossed a fan because they were upset at the calls and yelling out disapproval? Is this common?
I have never done it but have had partners who have spoken firmly to some parents and given them the "option of staying and being supportive of everyone involved," as one once put it, or leaving the gym. They have always opted to stay and we have had quiet games in those situations. Never has this happened in a high school game, only in middle school travel and below.
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Old Mon Feb 16, 2009, 11:08am
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Church leage? If a parent was berating me, making it personal, and it got to the point where I was distracted; I have no problem having the person removed. No swearing required.
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Old Mon Feb 16, 2009, 11:14am
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It sounds like you had a rough game.
I would suggest you stop your clipboard tossing. Many officials, especially in a heated game, take that as a sign of coach anger, and will "T" (lesson learned?).

Of course, its a HTBT sich, but if the crowd is yelling, how could you hear exactly what 1 person said to the official to get escorted out? Of course, listening to the escorted fan's excuse doesnt count!
I was working a freshman game about 20 years ago and a coach tossed his clipboard to the floor (in frustration at his players) and then looked in horror as the clip broke off and shot across the floor.
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Old Mon Feb 16, 2009, 11:17am
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I was working a freshman game about 20 years ago and a coach tossed his clipboard to the floor (in frustration at his players) and then looked in horror as the clip broke off and shot across the floor.
I had a clipboad get tossed a couple years ago. 2 man, I was L table side, so I didn't see it. T must have been looking away, too, 'cause he didn't call it. I know it wasn't frustration with her players, she had just complained about a no-call and I don't think she'd finished inhaling when I heard the crash of the clipboard.

I couldn't call it, though.
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