Couple of questions

[bas2456]

Team A is on offense running the break. A1 tosses to A2 as sort of an alley-oop type of play without the dunk. A2 tips ball with left hand toward basket. Ball doesn't hit anything, and A2, after landing, grabs ball and puts it in.

Is the play a traveling violation?

Team A shoots a three. Ball hits the heel of the rim and caroms all the way into the backcourt. These are shorter courts than normal, so this happens occasionally. Team A retrieves ball in the backcourt.

Backcourt violation?

I was the scorekeeper on this game so I couldn't have made a call anyway.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by bas2456

Team A is on offense running the break. A1 tosses to A2 as sort of an alley-oop type of play without the dunk. A2 tips ball with left hand toward basket. Ball doesn't hit anything, and A2, after landing, grabs ball and puts it in.

Is the play a traveling violation?

Team A shoots a three. Ball hits the heel of the rim and caroms all the way into the backcourt. These are shorter courts than normal, so this happens occasionally. Team A retrieves ball in the backcourt.

Backcourt violation?

I was the scorekeeper on this game so I couldn't have made a call anyway.

It's not a travel if the official determines it's a try/tap

There is no team control on a shot therefore this is not backcourt

-Josh

[Ref_in_Alberta]

Originally Posted by bas2456

Team A is on offense running the break. A1 tosses to A2 as sort of an alley-oop type of play without the dunk. A2 tips ball with left hand toward basket. Ball doesn't hit anything, and A2, after landing, grabs ball and puts it in.

Is the play a traveling violation?

Did A2 have control of the ball and illegally move his pivot foot? From your description of events, I'd say no, therefore there cannot be a traveling violation.

Originally Posted by bas2456

Team A shoots a three. Ball hits the heel of the rim and caroms all the way into the backcourt. These are shorter courts than normal, so this happens occasionally. Team A retrieves ball in the backcourt.

Backcourt violation?

Team control ends on the try for goal and is not re-established until the ball is recovered in the b/c. No violation.

[bas2456]

[QUOTE=Ref_in_Alberta;578401]Did A2 have control of the ball and illegally move his pivot foot? From your description of events, I'd say no, therefore there cannot be a traveling violation.

A2 was in the air when he initially touched the ball. From my perspective, it looked like he had control and made a try at the goal. The ball didn't hit anything, and the same player caught it. Hope that clears it up a bit.

[Ref_in_Alberta]

[QUOTE=bas2456;578405]

Originally Posted by Ref_in_Alberta

Did A2 have control of the ball and illegally move his pivot foot? From your description of events, I'd say no, therefore there cannot be a traveling violation.

A2 was in the air when he initially touched the ball. From my perspective, it looked like he had control and made a try at the goal. The ball didn't hit anything, and the same player caught it. Hope that clears it up a bit.

Still no travel because of the try. Only in the NBA (nbe???) you cannot rebound your own "airball".

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by jdmara

It's not a travel if the official determines it's a try/tap.

It makes no difference whether it's a try/tap or not. The player tapped the ball and then gained control of it. Nowhere in the player did he step with a pivot foot while holding the ball.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by bas2456

A2 was in the air when he initially touched the ball. From my perspective, it looked like he had control and made a try at the goal. The ball didn't hit anything, and the same player caught it. Hope that clears it up a bit.

Under NFHS and NCAA rules a player can only be called for traveling WHILE HOLDING THE BALL (except for that one case book situation that prevents a player from circumventing the rule about getting up from the floor).

By your description, the player gained control of the ball while he was airborne. He is certainly allowed to return to the floor with the ball, so why would you think that he wouldn't be allowed to return to the floor without the ball and then get it afterwards? In short, whether the action constitutes a try for goal or not doesn't matter. The play is legal anyway.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by bas2456

A2 was in the air when he initially touched the ball. From my perspective, it looked like he had control and made a try at the goal. The ball didn't hit anything, and the same player caught it. Hope that clears it up a bit.

There's no rule against recovering your own missed shot in college or HS basketball.

[Nevadaref]

It's BktBallRef by a nose!

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

It makes no difference whether it's a try/tap or not. The player tapped the ball and then gained control of it. Nowhere in the player did he step with a pivot foot while holding the ball.

It may, however, be an illegal dribble...but that's another story.

[VolDoug]

What if a player, while approaching his basket on a break-away, tosses the ball off of the backboard and dunks it without the ball touching the rim? Legal?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by VolDoug

What if a player, while approaching his basket on a break-away, tosses the ball off of the backboard and dunks it without the ball touching the rim? Legal?

Yes, it's legal.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by VolDoug

What if a player, while approaching his basket on a break-away, tosses the ball off of the backboard and dunks it without the ball touching the rim? Legal?

Legal. This is typically "considered" a shot attempt even though we know he's not really trying to make it.