The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Sat Feb 07, 2009, 10:58pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Illinois
Posts: 862
Delay of game warning

What would be the proper thing to do in this situation?

Just before game starts. Team 1 has 5 on the court and is lined up for the tip. Team 2 is huddling by the free throw line. After my second whistle and "Let's go blue!" They finally broke the huddle and away we went.

If I had to whistle one more time, I was going to issue a DoG warning or tech. Which would be the right way to handle it?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Sat Feb 07, 2009, 11:00pm
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Hmmm. I wonder if you could use RPP for the jump. Good question. I think if they don't comply you can go straight to the tech, but you cannot issue a DOG warning here.
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Sat Feb 07, 2009, 11:00pm
certified Hot Mom tester
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: only in my own mind, such as it is
Posts: 12,918
Thumbs up

If they don't want to come out of their huddle, go have a sandwich.

Then, help me find my meds.
__________________
Yom HaShoah
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Sat Feb 07, 2009, 11:02pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Illinois
Posts: 862
Quote:
Originally Posted by snaqwells View Post
hmmm. I wonder if you could use rpp for the jump. Good question. I think if they don't comply you can go straight to the tech, but you cannot issue a dog warning here.
rpp?
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Sat Feb 07, 2009, 11:10pm
Esteemed Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 23,223
You Have To Be A Basketball Official To Join This Party ...

Quote:
Originally Posted by bas2456 View Post
rpp?
Why the question? This is referring to the Rastriya Prajatantra Party, a political party in Nepal. Doesn't everyone know this, or maybe just famous Himalayan mountain climbers like myself know this? On my next expedition, I'm going to see how well the Fox 40 works at 28,000 feet. If I'm successful I will change my Forum username to SirWilliamMac.
__________________
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

“I was in prison and you came to visit me.” (Matthew 25:36)
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Sun Feb 08, 2009, 01:09am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 15,010
Quote:
Originally Posted by bas2456 View Post
What would be the proper thing to do in this situation?

Just before game starts. Team 1 has 5 on the court and is lined up for the tip. Team 2 is huddling by the free throw line. After my second whistle and "Let's go blue!" They finally broke the huddle and away we went.

If I had to whistle one more time, I was going to issue a DoG warning or tech. Which would be the right way to handle it?
A team technical foul is the proper call in the scenario that you have provided, if you couldn't get them to move it by yelling at them as you did.

The reason is that the team is on the court (so 10-1-5a doesn't apply), but is failing to put a player in their half of the center restraining circle for the jump ball and the official cannot conduct the jump ball until a player takes that position. Therefore, this team is delaying the ball from being made promptly live, per 10-1-5b.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Sun Feb 08, 2009, 01:43am
Administrator
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Toledo, Ohio, U.S.A.
Posts: 8,082
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevadaref View Post
A team technical foul is the proper call in the scenario that you have provided, if you couldn't get them to move it by yelling at them as you did.

The reason is that the team is on the court (so 10-1-5a doesn't apply), but is failing to put a player in their half of the center restraining circle for the jump ball and the official cannot conduct the jump ball until a player takes that position. Therefore, this team is delaying the ball from being made promptly live, per 10-1-5b.

NevadaRef:

Don't forget, though, Team B has to delay the start of the first half by one minute.

MTD, Sr.
__________________
Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Trumbull Co. (Warren, Ohio) Bkb. Off. Assn.
Wood Co. (Bowling Green, Ohio) Bkb. Off. Assn.
Ohio Assn. of Basketball Officials
International Assn. of Approved Bkb. Officials
Ohio High School Athletic Association
Toledo, Ohio
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Sun Feb 08, 2009, 02:08am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 15,010
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. View Post
NevadaRef:

Don't forget, though, Team B has to delay the start of the first half by one minute.

MTD, Sr.
I'm not forgetting that provision. In fact, I specifically mentioned it in my post; It's 10-1-5a. I simply don't believe that it applies to this case as the team is on the floor. They just aren't taking a required position. It is my understanding that the one full minute delay applies when the team isn't out there. For example, they are still in the locker room.

There is no way that I'm going to give them a whole minute to figure out who is going to be their designated jumper. In my opinion, that is why part b is in the book.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Sun Feb 08, 2009, 05:15pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Posts: 18,138
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevadaref View Post
I'm not forgetting that provision. In fact, I specifically mentioned it in my post; It's 10-1-5a. I simply don't believe that it applies to this case as the team is on the floor. They just aren't taking a required position. It is my understanding that the one full minute delay applies when the team isn't out there. For example, they are still in the locker room.

There is no way that I'm going to give them a whole minute to figure out who is going to be their designated jumper. In my opinion, that is why part b is in the book.

I agree.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Sun Feb 08, 2009, 05:35pm
certified Hot Mom tester
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: only in my own mind, such as it is
Posts: 12,918
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevadaref View Post
There is no way that I'm going to give them a whole minute to figure out who is going to be their designated jumper.
If they can't figure out who's going to jump, you decide for them. Choose the shortest, heaviest player, especially if he's wearing a knee brace.

They'll get the message.
__________________
Yom HaShoah
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Delay of game warning Chess Ref Basketball 2 Mon Nov 26, 2007 08:22am
Delay of game warning gostars Basketball 8 Mon Jan 19, 2004 07:27pm
delay of game warning or not? Air JC Basketball 97 Thu Feb 14, 2002 12:31pm
Delay of Game Warning Ron Pilo Basketball 8 Mon Mar 05, 2001 09:40am
Delay of game warning feeli99 Basketball 11 Sun Feb 13, 2000 10:18pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:54am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1