Pat Knight ejection.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Ahhh, didn't know that...

I would assume there can still be a penalty by the NCAA if he comes back and won't leave, etc.?

Yep, the current NCAA rule says "a maximum of..." So such extra action would go into a report and be handled by the school, conference, or NCAA.

[tballump]

Will the refs get blackballed now.

Wasn't there a really good ref named Soloman who got blackballed years ago for T--ing up Dad and he never was heard from again. Daddy got him completely run out of D1 ball. What was his first name? Wasn't he a known as a very good official until Dad ruined him for giving his greatness a T? Come on, some of you experienced guys help me out here. What was that guys name and where is he now? I believe he was in Referee magazine years ago.

Will these officials face the same fate??? Why would they not get blackballed but the other guy did??

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by tballump

Will the refs get blackballed now.

Wasn't there a really good ref named Soloman who got blackballed years ago for T--ing up Dad and he never was heard from again. Daddy got him completely run out of D1 ball. What was his first name? Wasn't he a known as a very good official until Dad ruined him for giving his greatness a T? Come on, some of you experienced guys help me out here. What was that guys name and where is he now? I believe he was in Referee magazine years ago.

Will these officials face the same fate??? Why would they not get blackballed but the other guy did??

I know nothing about what you're talking about, but if there was a guy you speak of that got blackballed and this guy does not, the reason is Pat Knight does not cast nearly as big a shadow as Dad.

[btaylor64]

Those of you who have stated that the official got it right, please explain how he got it right?? I would really like to know how the official got this play right?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

Those of you who have stated that the official got it right, please explain how he got it right?? I would really like to know how the official got this play right?

The Texas Tech player pushed out the Nebraska player. Then as the Nebraska player tried to get away, the Tech player held the Nebraska player with his left arm and the Nebraska player could not make a reasonable play on the ball. The Tech player than fell down because he had already leaned and pushed the Nebraska player a few feet from his original sport. Not only is that a foul in a normal situation that was a rough play which is preached to officials at that level all the time. It was the only call to make and the right call by that official.

Peace

[walter]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The Texas Tech player pushed out the Nebraska player. Then as the Nebraska player tried to get away, the Tech player held the Nebraska player with his left arm and the Nebraska player could not make a reasonable play on the ball. The Tech player than fell down because he had already leaned and pushed the Nebraska player a few feet from his original sport. Not only is that a foul in a normal situation that was a rough play which is preached to officials at that level all the time. It was the only call to make and the right call by that official.

Peace

Right on, Rut. If you watch the "C", he points to the Tech player as well as it appears they had a double whistle but the lead comes out hard and takes it. If you really watch at the beginning, the tech player gets up underneath the Nebraska player and rides him out. The amazing thing is we can all probably recall situations where coaches and players believe this is simply "boxing out".

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

Those of you who have stated that the official got it right, please explain how he got it right?? I would really like to know how the official got this play right?

Kudos to official who saw the WHOLE play. It would be very easy to hit Nebraska player with foul as tech player flops on his behind. Tech player initiates contact, displaces, pushes Nebraska player, then due to his momentum, flops.

The right call.

Knight is an idiot.

[bigdogrunnin]

Link to ESPN video:



The 3 officials on that game were: Rick Randall (13 yrs. D-1), J.B. Caldwell (13 yrs. D-1), Terry Oglesby (6 yrs. D-1)

All 3 are experienced officials, and let's just say that Dale Kelley, the Big 12 Coordinator of Officials wouldn't let a coach run off a good official and ruin their career. Especially when the officials got the call right.

Silly rabbit . . . tricks are for kids.

[Texas Aggie]

It doesn't help that the idiot announcer on the video either didn't see or doesn't realize that the tech player was the one that initiated the contact.

[fullor30]

That settles it...........showed it to my 13 year old son and asked who should be charged with the foul. "That's easy Dad, the guy in white uniform on the floor"

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by Huntin' Ref

Pat Knight is nothing like his father.

I disagree. Great call by first official. Knight is truly an idiot and proves that the self-control gene is missing from his DNA just as it was from his father's.

I predict that all three officials will be working games long after Knight, Jr. is a bad memory for all (officials, TT, and the NCAA).

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

Those of you who have stated that the official got it right, please explain how he got it right?? I would really like to know how the official got this play right?

It was a hold on the Texas Tech player. The Nebraska player did nothing illegal. The official called the hold on the Texas Tech player.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

It was a hold on the Texas Tech player. The Nebraska player did nothing illegal. The official called the hold on the Texas Tech player.

Maybe Mr. Taylor can tell us how they got it wrong.

[btaylor64]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Maybe Mr. Taylor can tell us how they got it wrong.

Nope not going to tell anything. I only got to see the play a couple of times and before seeing another replay i did not see the Texas Tech player clamp up the Nebraska player although i do disagree with JRut's earlier statement about this being a rough play. The tech player was just trying to perform a normal box out and the nebraska player was giving ground and then finally as the tech player is going down he clamps up the nebraska player and up until the moment of the clamp up i would not have had a foul.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by tballump

Will the refs get blackballed now.

At that level, no.

Originally Posted by tballump

Wasn't there a really good ref named Soloman who got blackballed years ago for T--ing up Dad and he never was heard from again. Daddy got him completely run out of D1 ball. What was his first name? Wasn't he a known as a very good official until Dad ruined him for giving his greatness a T? Come on, some of you experienced guys help me out here. What was that guys name and where is he now? I believe he was in Referee magazine years ago.

I have never heard of this story or even know the people you are talking about.

Originally Posted by tballump

Will these officials face the same fate??? Why would they not get blackballed but the other guy did??

At this level, coaches do not have that kind of power. It is possible that if a coach and an official had a run in, it is possible the supervisor might not put the two together. If the official did something wrong (which it is rather clear he did not in this case) there would be other consequences to their mistake. Running a coach that ran onto the floor is not likely going to be seen as a mistake. Even if the officials did not do something correct, I doubt this play would be something they would have to worry about. And I doubt that the supervisor gives a damn what little Knight thinks with the way his behavior was put on display.

Peace