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Old Mon Feb 02, 2009, 12:23am
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Will the refs get blackballed now.

Wasn't there a really good ref named Soloman who got blackballed years ago for T--ing up Dad and he never was heard from again. Daddy got him completely run out of D1 ball. What was his first name? Wasn't he a known as a very good official until Dad ruined him for giving his greatness a T? Come on, some of you experienced guys help me out here. What was that guys name and where is he now? I believe he was in Referee magazine years ago.

Will these officials face the same fate??? Why would they not get blackballed but the other guy did??
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Old Mon Feb 02, 2009, 12:28am
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Will the refs get blackballed now.

Wasn't there a really good ref named Soloman who got blackballed years ago for T--ing up Dad and he never was heard from again. Daddy got him completely run out of D1 ball. What was his first name? Wasn't he a known as a very good official until Dad ruined him for giving his greatness a T? Come on, some of you experienced guys help me out here. What was that guys name and where is he now? I believe he was in Referee magazine years ago.

Will these officials face the same fate??? Why would they not get blackballed but the other guy did??

I know nothing about what you're talking about, but if there was a guy you speak of that got blackballed and this guy does not, the reason is Pat Knight does not cast nearly as big a shadow as Dad.
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Old Mon Feb 02, 2009, 12:34am
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Those of you who have stated that the official got it right, please explain how he got it right?? I would really like to know how the official got this play right?
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Old Mon Feb 02, 2009, 12:52am
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Those of you who have stated that the official got it right, please explain how he got it right?? I would really like to know how the official got this play right?
The Texas Tech player pushed out the Nebraska player. Then as the Nebraska player tried to get away, the Tech player held the Nebraska player with his left arm and the Nebraska player could not make a reasonable play on the ball. The Tech player than fell down because he had already leaned and pushed the Nebraska player a few feet from his original sport. Not only is that a foul in a normal situation that was a rough play which is preached to officials at that level all the time. It was the only call to make and the right call by that official.

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The Texas Tech player pushed out the Nebraska player. Then as the Nebraska player tried to get away, the Tech player held the Nebraska player with his left arm and the Nebraska player could not make a reasonable play on the ball. The Tech player than fell down because he had already leaned and pushed the Nebraska player a few feet from his original sport. Not only is that a foul in a normal situation that was a rough play which is preached to officials at that level all the time. It was the only call to make and the right call by that official.

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Right on, Rut. If you watch the "C", he points to the Tech player as well as it appears they had a double whistle but the lead comes out hard and takes it. If you really watch at the beginning, the tech player gets up underneath the Nebraska player and rides him out. The amazing thing is we can all probably recall situations where coaches and players believe this is simply "boxing out".
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Old Mon Feb 02, 2009, 11:28am
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Those of you who have stated that the official got it right, please explain how he got it right?? I would really like to know how the official got this play right?
Kudos to official who saw the WHOLE play. It would be very easy to hit Nebraska player with foul as tech player flops on his behind. Tech player initiates contact, displaces, pushes Nebraska player, then due to his momentum, flops.

The right call.

Knight is an idiot.
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Old Mon Feb 02, 2009, 12:31pm
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The 3 officials on that game were: Rick Randall (13 yrs. D-1), J.B. Caldwell (13 yrs. D-1), Terry Oglesby (6 yrs. D-1)

All 3 are experienced officials, and let's just say that Dale Kelley, the Big 12 Coordinator of Officials wouldn't let a coach run off a good official and ruin their career. Especially when the officials got the call right.

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Old Mon Feb 02, 2009, 02:17pm
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It doesn't help that the idiot announcer on the video either didn't see or doesn't realize that the tech player was the one that initiated the contact.
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Its one thing to come out on the court to protest a call, but that was ridiculous, sprinting and gesturing ala KoKo Costanza all the way across mid court opposite table. I don't think I've ever seen anything like that at any level.
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It doesn't help that the idiot announcer on the video either didn't see or doesn't realize that the tech player was the one that initiated the contact.
What a shock - an announcer that doesn't get it!!!
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Old Tue Feb 03, 2009, 09:05am
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That settles it...........showed it to my 13 year old son and asked who should be charged with the foul. "That's easy Dad, the guy in white uniform on the floor"
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That settles it...........showed it to my 13 year old son and asked who should be charged with the foul. "That's easy Dad, the guy in white uniform on the floor"
I like your kid's thinking. He'll probably fast-track as an official once he gets started!

BTW, the Big 12 reprimanded Knight for his action, saying it violated the league's policy on public criticism of the officials. Nice.
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Old Tue Feb 03, 2009, 03:36pm
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Pat Knight is nothing like his father.
I disagree. Great call by first official. Knight is truly an idiot and proves that the self-control gene is missing from his DNA just as it was from his father's.

I predict that all three officials will be working games long after Knight, Jr. is a bad memory for all (officials, TT, and the NCAA).
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Those of you who have stated that the official got it right, please explain how he got it right?? I would really like to know how the official got this play right?
It was a hold on the Texas Tech player. The Nebraska player did nothing illegal. The official called the hold on the Texas Tech player.
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It was a hold on the Texas Tech player. The Nebraska player did nothing illegal. The official called the hold on the Texas Tech player.
Maybe Mr. Taylor can tell us how they got it wrong.
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