Coaches don't know the rules?

[DonInKansas]

Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef

Rule Change Suggestion: Once ball is tipped by the defense, the division line "disappears" until the offense has PLAYER CONTROL and BOTH FEET in the FRONT COURT, again. A back court count would be started WHEN THE TEAM GAINS PLAYER CONTROL IN THE BACKCOURT (as opposed to starting the count as soon as the ball goes into the back court as the rule is today).

The rule would match 90+% of the coaches' understanding of the rule anyway.

Why should we change this rule just because coaches don't understand it? It's penalizing good defense.

In my eyes, it's just like OOB. If you're the last to touch in the FC (offensively), the division line is like OOB for you.

[zm1283]

I don't know why it would need to be changed. It's not my problem that some coaches don't read certain rules and understand them fully.

[CMHCoachNRef]

Originally Posted by DonInKansas

Why should we change this rule just because coaches don't understand it? It's penalizing good defense.

In my eyes, it's just like OOB. If you're the last to touch in the FC (offensively), the division line is like OOB for you.

There are many other rules that could be put in place to award good defense. Why not give the defense the ball every time they deflect a pass instead of only rewarding them with the ball when they deflect it off of the offense? That would be awarding "good defense." Two scenarios:
1. The defender getting a hand on the ball, gets LUCKY enough to have the ball hit the offensive player's foot and roll to the back court,
2. The defender bats the ball off of the defender's foot, but the ball happens to roll laterally across the court -- not in the back court.

Reward 1. with the ball, sorry, nothing for 2. How exactly is that a justifiable way of rewarding the defense?

Two more scenarios:
1. Defender gets hand completely into passing lane and deflects the ball completely into the back court and offensive player goes into the back court and retrieves the ball,
2. Defender just barely gets a hand on the pass causing the ball to glance every-so-slightly off of the offensive player's hand into the back court resulting in a LTFT back court violation.

No convincing me that the second defender made a better defensive play than the first. Once again, if you are really interested in rewarding good defense, why not make scenario 1 here a back court violation?

Once again, the vast majority of coaches and players agree that this is a bad rule based on their reaction to it virtually EVERY TIME. It is only a good rule for the official who wants to prove to the coaches and players that he/she knows all of the rules.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef

1)Once again, the vast majority of coaches and players agree that this is a bad rule based on their reaction to it virtually EVERY TIME.

2) It is only a good rule for the official who wants to prove to the coaches and players that he/she knows all of the rules.

1) Then get the coaches and players to try and get the rule changed. It's got nothing to do with the officials. The officials are calling the play correcly, by rule. Whatinthehell different than that do you want? If the rulesmakers had agreed with your little fantasy, they would have changed the rule years ago.

2) Another stoopid statement imo. It's completely irrelevant whether it's a "good" rule or a "bad" rule, or whether any official might agree or disagree with it. The bottom line is that it's a rule. And officials have to call a game by the rules, whether we like 'em or not. In this particular case, an official better damn-well try to show that he/she knows the appropriate rule. It's our job to call it BY that rule.