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Old Wed Jan 28, 2009, 02:00pm
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I'm calling that. Especialy since it's just the end of the 3rd Quarter. Maybe a no call if you have overtime comming up anyway. Hopefully Mark wont read this. This also depends on the severity of the contact. Not much there, no call. Judo chopps the shooter calling it no matter the sit.
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Old Wed Jan 28, 2009, 02:07pm
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Was the ball released prior to the horn sounding?

If yes, then call the foul. If no, then as long as the contact was not excessive, you've got nothing. If no and the contact was excessive, you have contact during a dead ball which is not a common foul but a technical foul.
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Was the ball released prior to the horn sounding?

If yes, then call the foul. If no, then as long as the contact was not excessive, you've got nothing. If no and the contact was excessive, you have contact during a dead ball which is not a common foul but a technical foul.
I'd even say that if the contact occurred prior to the horn, but the try was released afterwards, you should probably call the foul.
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Old Wed Jan 28, 2009, 02:57pm
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I'd even say that if the contact occurred prior to the horn, but the try was released afterwards, you should probably call the foul.
In this case, would it be correct to wave off the shot (whether made or missed) and award two free throws with the lane cleared, to end the quarter?
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In this case, would it be correct to wave off the shot (whether made or missed) and award two free throws with the lane cleared, to end the quarter?
Yes.
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In this case, would it be correct to wave off the shot (whether made or missed) and award two free throws with the lane cleared, to end the quarter?
Yes.

Play: Ruling

Horn - Release - "Foul": No call

Horn - "Foul" - Release: No call

Release - Horn - Foul: Shooting foul (Basket counts and 1 shot, or two shots)

Release - Foul - Horn: Shooting foul (Basket counts and 1 shot, or two shots)


Foul - Horn - Release: Shooting foul (No shot, always 2 FTs)

Foul - Release - Horn: Shooting foul (Basket counts and 1 shot, or two shots)


(The above assumes that the ball is still in the air on the release, and that it's a two-point try)
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Old Wed Jan 28, 2009, 04:19pm
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Yes.

Play: Ruling

Horn - Release - "Foul": No call

Horn - "Foul" - Release: No call

Release - Horn - Foul: Shooting foul (Basket counts and 1 shot, or two shots)

Release - Foul - Horn: Shooting foul (Basket counts and 1 shot, or two shots)


Foul - Horn - Release: Shooting foul (No shot, always 2 FTs)

Foul - Release - Horn: Shooting foul (Basket counts and 1 shot, or two shots)


(The above assumes that the ball is still in the air on the release, and that it's a two-point try)
I think that this summary would fit well in the Most Misunderstood Calls Listing.....
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It gets more complicated, IMO, if you can put time back on the clock.
In the foul - horn - release scenario, if the whistle blows prior to the horn and one of the officials knows how much time can be put back on the clock, you would count the basket and shoot one free throw.
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