Tech foul is also a personal foul?

[LeeBallanfant]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

Player reaches accross line and strikes ball while still in possesion of the thrower - automatic tech. Does this also count against his personal foul total?

1. In most instances would you not violate (crossing the boundary) before committing the Tech?

2. Is there still a provision for an offensive violation for your arm crossing the boundary while making throw in?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by LeeBallanfant

1. In most instances would you not violate (crossing the boundary) before committing the Tech?

2. Is there still a provision for an offensive violation for your arm crossing the boundary while making throw in?

1) In NO instances would you call a violation first before calling a "T" for touching the ball while it's being held out-of-bounds by the thrower. There is one penalty only for the act described.

2) There NEVER was a provision for an offensive violation for the thrower's arm crossing a boundary line during a throw-in. EVER!

[LeeBallanfant]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

1) In NO instances would you call a violation first before calling a "T" for touching the ball while it's being held out-of-bounds by the thrower. There is one penalty only for the act described.

2) There NEVER was a provision for an offensive violation for the thrower's arm crossing a boundary line during a throw-in. EVER!

For item #2 above, since no violation, what happens when thrower-in while faking a throw-in has his arm cross boundary and touches the hands or body of the defensive person who has a legal position (nothing crossing boundary).

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by LeeBallanfant

For item #2 above, since no violation, what happens when thrower-in while faking a throw-in has his arm cross boundary and touches the hands or body of the defensive person who has a legal position (nothing crossing boundary).

What happens? Play on.

[LeeBallanfant]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

What happens? Play on.

Ok, lets take it one step further, defensive player legally slaps ball out of hands of thrower-in who has had his arm cross the boundary line.

My interpretation of the above (when thrower in touches legally positioned defensive player) would be a throw in violation for failure to throw the ball directly into the court.