Player pushes Official

[tadams]

Originally Posted by Suppref

add up to a head coaches disqualification.

When a player fouls out he becomes bench personell, in Ct anyway!!

bench personel can be given flagrant fouls... he has to get one in this case if not anyone fouling out can go after a ref?

[rlarry]

Originally Posted by Suppref

BTW In Ct when a player is ejected he must sit out the next game.

In VT it is 2 more games

[beachbum]

During a time out, a HSJV boy's player calmly came over to tell me that a player on the other team was pushing him in the stomach. He then proceeded to give me a demonstration by say, "like this", and lightly pushed me.

I decided that he meant no harm, so I just said , "do not touch an official!". He must have apologized two or three times.

Should I have tossed him?

[JRutledge]

Maybe I missed something in the article, but I did not read anything that suggested the player was not ejected other than the implication by the person writing the story. And we all know how accurate those people are when it comes to rules. For all you know, it was rather clear he would not have been in the game and that a report was filed with the appropriate authorities to take further action. There are no specific signals that we give to eject someone other than what some might practice based on experience.

Peace

[deecee]

no you should not -- players and coaches should NOT touch an official 98% of the time -- your stich falls in the 2% of the time where its not a big deal.

[beachbum]

Originally Posted by deecee

no you should not -- players and coaches should NOT touch an official 98% of the time -- your stich falls in the 2% of the time where its not a big deal.

thanks. I had to make a quick decision, and I thought I did right. The kid had the look of "oh my god, I touched him and he may throw me out look"

[Amesman]

Originally Posted by beachbum

thanks. I had to make a quick decision, and I thought I did right. The kid had the look of "oh my god, I touched him and he may throw me out look"

You have to look at the intent. These are kids after all and, albeit rare, some might just not know better. Besides, they're stripes we wear and a whistle we hold, not a crown and sceptre. You did right.

[mathuc]

Originally Posted by beachbum

thanks. I had to make a quick decision, and I thought I did right. The kid had the look of "oh my god, I touched him and he may throw me out look"

I was somewhat joking with a player I've known for quite some time and he spanked my butt. I told him he crossed the line between good joking and bad judgement and gave him a T. He was ticked..

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mathuc

I was somewhat joking with a player I've known for quite some time and he spanked my butt. I told him he crossed the line between good joking and bad judgement and gave him a T. He was ticked..

Seriously?

[Ignats75]

even though the technical was his fifth foul, I would assess an ADDITIONAL FLAGERANT FOUL. In OHio, that means an automatic ejection and paperwork filed with the OHSAA. The player would then be suspended for two games.

[shishstripes]

No, he wasn't touching you in an unsportsmanlike manner or to be disrespectful. Just trying to show you something.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by beachbum

During a time out, a HSJV boy's player calmly came over to tell me that a player on the other team was pushing him in the stomach. He then proceeded to give me a demonstration by say, "like this", and lightly pushed me.

I decided that he meant no harm, so I just said , "do not touch an official!". He must have apologized two or three times.

Should I have tossed him?

You're kidding aren't you?

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by fullor30

You're kidding aren't you?

Who knows? That was back in January

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Who knows? That was back in January

Yeah, I noticed that long after I posted.

[constable]

Originally Posted by TiManGR

Ran across this article in local newspaper.
Comstock Park loses cool, game - MLive.com

"With 48 seconds left, and Cedar Springs leading 57-54, Comstock Park junior Zach Mull was whistled for a technical foul. Four seconds later, a technical was called on Panthers senior Davary Anthony, who reacted to the call by pushing one of the officials. Anthony was spared an ejection as the technical was his fifth personal foul. With 20 seconds left, the Comstock Park bench was whistled for the team's third technical in a 28-second span."

What would you do if pushed?

Flagrant technical- report it to your local admin.

i've said it before and I'll say it again- I don't like the NFHS rule that a player who is "ejected" gets to sit on the bench. I think if someone is that big of a goof they can watch from the dressing room.

Now I know you can banish them if you feel it's neccessary with an adult supervisor, but I still don't like the rule. Every other rule set to the best of my knowledge makes the ejected person leave the vacinity of the court.

People talk about the potential liabilities if someone gets the boot and is unsupervised, but it's not an issue in minor baseball ( which I also officiate) or minor hockey- which I watch. Ejected players go buh bye.