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[Spence]

Would anyone call a T on the player in white who bends down and appears to be talking smack to the defender?

[AKOFL]

Originally Posted by Spence

Would anyone call a T on the player in white who bends down and appears to be talking smack to the defender?

As the lead official I definately would have whacked that kid for bending down and saying something. You could tell he came to his sences preety quick and got out of there. This play (block-charge) is 50-50 at best, and I think (hope) coaches realize that. We have the benefit of watching it over and over and seeing it clearly. That is not always the case on the floor, as I'm sure we are all aware. That said, this official certainly needed to do a few things differently. His partners should have been paying closer attention, after the inital whistle blew, to activiy going on. No rest for the wicked and thats us officials on the court.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by AKOFL

As the lead official I definately would have whacked that kid for bending down and saying something. You could tell he came to his sences preety quick and got out of there. This play (block-charge) is 50-50 at best, and I think (hope) coaches realize that. We have the benefit of watching it over and over and seeing it clearly. That is not always the case on the floor, as I'm sure we are all aware. That said, this official certainly needed to do a few things differently. His partners should have been paying closer attention, after the inital whistle blew, to activiy going on. No rest for the wicked and thats us officials on the court.

I'm sorry, but I don't see this as a 50-50 play. My first viewing told me it was an easy charge; replay only confirmed it. The defender had roots.

[Spence]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'm sorry, but I don't see this as a 50-50 play. My first viewing told me it was an easy charge; replay only confirmed it. The defender had roots.

It looks like the shooter's leg hit the defender in the left shoulder. Is the shoulder part of the torso?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Spence

It looks like the shooter's leg hit the defender in the left shoulder. Is the shoulder part of the torso?

The torso is a rule of thumb only, not the rule, and really only helps with a moving defender. In this case, it was the shooter's right leg that essentially stepped on the defender's left shoulder, and the defender was in his spot and not moving.

I could possibly see judging this a no-call, but a block is just the wrong call.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The torso is a rule of thumb only, not the rule, and really only helps with a moving defender. In this case, it was the shooter's right leg that essentially stepped on the defender's left shoulder, and the defender was in his spot and not moving.

I could possibly see judging this a no-call, but a block is just the wrong call.

Exaclty what I said in my first post in this thread. A block should not even be a possibility when the defender has roots like this guy did.

[APG]

On first view, I thought it was an easy PC call. After viewing it again to see if I missed anything, I'd still go with PC.

[slow whistle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The torso is a rule of thumb only, not the rule, and really only helps with a moving defender. In this case, it was the shooter's right leg that essentially stepped on the defender's left shoulder, and the defender was in his spot and not moving.

I could possibly see judging this a no-call, but a block is just the wrong call.

The ONLY thing that is even close is whether the defender had established his position before the shooter left the ground since there is significant hang time here...watching it on video it is pretty clear to me that this is PC, but real time, floor level angle....who am I kidding they blew this one, been there!

[deecee]

What I got is an official who doesn't know wtf he is doing (and at the college level). Judgement is one thing (and I dont think his is good) but his mechanics are non existent. How is his partner supposed to know what is going on. Also a call like that can have some kind of emotion to sell it as it is close and could potentially (not in this case) go either way.

And the whole time the only way I knew it was a block and a shooting foul was because the players were lining up.

[AKOFL]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'm sorry, but I don't see this as a 50-50 play. My first viewing told me it was an easy charge; replay only confirmed it. The defender had roots.

My bad. I didn't mean this play in particular, just block-charges in general. There are a few no brainers every once in a while, but most of the time you could argue either way. This one I have in the PC basket also.