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Old Thu Jan 22, 2009, 11:49am
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Check out the midget on the end of the bench

Anderson, SC isn't that the home of Radio?

Almost forgot, charge
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Old Thu Jan 22, 2009, 11:57am
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Definitely not a block.

PC or no-call, with an obvious lean to a PC.

Edit: @ midget.
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Old Thu Jan 22, 2009, 12:02pm
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What about the guy running down along the fans giving everyone five? Do you have a little bit of taunting there?
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Old Thu Jan 22, 2009, 12:24pm
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Without having a closer look at the contact, looks like PC to me...
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Old Thu Jan 22, 2009, 12:29pm
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Would anyone call a T on the player in white who bends down and appears to be talking smack to the defender?
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Old Thu Jan 22, 2009, 02:21pm
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Would anyone call a T on the player in white who bends down and appears to be talking smack to the defender?
As the lead official I definately would have whacked that kid for bending down and saying something. You could tell he came to his sences preety quick and got out of there. This play (block-charge) is 50-50 at best, and I think (hope) coaches realize that. We have the benefit of watching it over and over and seeing it clearly. That is not always the case on the floor, as I'm sure we are all aware. That said, this official certainly needed to do a few things differently. His partners should have been paying closer attention, after the inital whistle blew, to activiy going on. No rest for the wicked and thats us officials on the court.
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Old Thu Jan 22, 2009, 02:30pm
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As the lead official I definately would have whacked that kid for bending down and saying something. You could tell he came to his sences preety quick and got out of there. This play (block-charge) is 50-50 at best, and I think (hope) coaches realize that. We have the benefit of watching it over and over and seeing it clearly. That is not always the case on the floor, as I'm sure we are all aware. That said, this official certainly needed to do a few things differently. His partners should have been paying closer attention, after the inital whistle blew, to activiy going on. No rest for the wicked and thats us officials on the court.
I'm sorry, but I don't see this as a 50-50 play. My first viewing told me it was an easy charge; replay only confirmed it. The defender had roots.
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Old Thu Jan 22, 2009, 12:35pm
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For newer officials...

This is a good play to practice your mechanics on.
A) You have contact by 32 Black (the smaller 1st defender)
B) You have a block by 30 Black
C) You have a player control foul on 23? White

If you had this YouTube moment, how would you want your mechanics to be?

Please, do a better job than this official did of communicating what you have. Think it through all the way, and practice it in a big enough space.

I'm a big proponent of newer officials working their mechanics in the mirror, but also of working through the mechanics of certain plays in the mirror. This is a good one, because there are a few different scenarios to practice. Give it a try.
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Old Thu Jan 22, 2009, 01:16pm
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I believe he called a block on 30 because at the very end (last few frames) he starts to put his hands up in closed fists to emphasize the blocking foul. Of course, this is just a guess.
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Old Thu Jan 22, 2009, 01:41pm
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I believe he called a block on 30 because at the very end (last few frames) he starts to put his hands up in closed fists to emphasize the blocking foul. Of course, this is just a guess.
I see what you're saying, but one thing I wonder, why he didn't do the score the basket "chop" when he called the foul? That would have cleared up it was a defensive foul for me at first, but he just held his fist up and then went off to report. If I were observing, I'd be puzzled till his report what it was.
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Old Thu Jan 22, 2009, 05:05pm
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Plus they are lining up for the free throw on the offensive end, so it had to be a block call. Looks like PC to me. What a leaper, though - he almost kicks the defender in the face!
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Old Thu Jan 22, 2009, 11:46pm
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One thing everyone missed is that there was a double whistle. I couldn't hear it but the lead's arm went up at the same time as the center...hard to see, but take a close look. The lack of an immediate preliminary signal was because they were ensuring they didn't have a blarge.

I agree that it should have either been PC or nothing...but it appears they called a defensive foul.
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Old Thu Jan 22, 2009, 05:55pm
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For newer officials...

This is a good play to practice your mechanics on.
A) You have contact by 32 Black (the smaller 1st defender)
B) You have a block by 30 Black
C) You have a player control foul on 23? White

If you had this YouTube moment, how would you want your mechanics to be?

Please, do a better job than this official did of communicating what you have. Think it through all the way, and practice it in a big enough space.

I'm a big proponent of newer officials working their mechanics in the mirror, but also of working through the mechanics of certain plays in the mirror. This is a good one, because there are a few different scenarios to practice. Give it a try.
Ref 99...new ref here...great tip. esp. the point you made about "working through the mechanics of certain plays"..all too often I find myself just practiving one sigle mechanic...not the entire sequence of hand signals you would use in making a call for a foul or a violation.
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