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[Mark Padgett]

This happened in my game last night. A1 in backcourt with the ball. He passes to A2 who is facing him, standing on the division line with part of both shoes in the backcourt, part on the line and part in the frontcourt (he had big feet, OK?). A2 catches the ball and, without moving his feet, passes the ball back to A1 who is still in the backcourt.

Is this a violation?

[deecee]

no

[AKOFL]

Were all three points in the frontcourt? there is your answer.

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Is this a violation?

Yes, when A2 caught the ball Mark was on 8 of his b/c count & when A1 received the pass back Mark was well past 10 seconds... {tweet} 10 b/c violation.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by AKOFL

Were all three points in the frontcourt? there is your answer.

all 3 points were also in the backcourt.

[Scratch85]

No violation 4-35-2

[Amesman]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

This happened in my game last night. A1 in backcourt with the ball. He passes to A2 who is facing him, standing on the division line with part of both shoes in the backcourt, part on the line and part in the frontcourt (he had big feet, OK?). A2 catches the ball and, without moving his feet, passes the ball back to A1 who is still in the backcourt.

Is this a violation?

Did either of them hit the ball with her pigtails?

No.

Not to digress too much, but now what if Mr. Big Feet catches the pass and starts dribbling parallel to the division line, feet in the forecourt, ball bouncing up and down in the backcourt/on the line? (Almost kind of reminds of the old one: Can you tell me if my turn signal is working? OK -- yes, no, yes, no ...)

[deecee]

all 3 points have to be frontcourt -- the player can still go to the backcourt and it not be a violation since the ball never made it to the front court with the player.

[Juulie Downs]

Originally Posted by deecee

all 3 points have to be frontcourt -- the player can still go to the backcourt and it not be a violation since the ball never made it to the front court with the player.

Using the 3-point thingy as a guideline is confusing. That rule only applies on a dribble from the bc to the fc, and in no way is applicable to this sitch. The question is, does the ball have fc status or bc status when A2 catches it? Since A2 has bc status, so does the ball. End of discussion.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

Using the 3-point thingy as a guideline is confusing. That rule only applies on a dribble from the bc to the fc, and in no way is applicable to this sitch. The question is, does the ball have fc status or bc status when A2 catches it? Since A2 has bc status, so does the ball. End of discussion.

Julie,

I was responding to the post that was right before mine. See Amesman's previous post.

[Juulie Downs]

Originally Posted by deecee

Julie,

I was responding to the post that was right before mine. See Amesman's previous post.

Okay, I see. but you responded wrong. If he catches ball with his feet in the fc, and then dribbles in the bc, it's a violation, right? What am I missing?

[Mark Padgett]

Juulie - did you get my email yesterday? If not, that would be lame. (inside joke, guys)

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

This happened in my game last night. A1 in backcourt with the ball. He passes to A2 who is facing him, standing on the division line with part of both shoes in the backcourt, part on the line and part in the frontcourt (he had big feet, OK?). A2 catches the ball and, without moving his feet, passes the ball back to A1 who is still in the backcourt.

Is this a violation?

Ed McMahon: And how big were they?

[jeschmit]

I would say it isn't a BC violation as he still has the right to be in the BC since both of his feet still obtain some of the backcourt floor. I'm thinking of this in terms of what if he started dribbling and moved into the BC and thus removed his big feed from the division line. I would not call a violation then, so I would not call a violation if he passed the ball back without dribbling.

Is there a trick answer to this? Because it seems like there might be...

[Juulie Downs]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Juulie - did you get my email yesterday? If not, that would be lame. (inside joke, guys)

Yea. I got it. Yup, lame!