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bob jenkins Wed Jan 14, 2009 09:14pm

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Originally Posted by Ch1town (Post 568634)
^ Where was this say 20+ posts ago :) Way to go!

It was there 21 posts ago. ;)

Adam Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:22am

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Originally Posted by OHBBREF (Post 568636)
Okay I was wrong,

I am still going to blame it on the scorer and get the score right if I have knowledge that it was a three and recorded as a two.

You have to get this right.

Okay, are you saying that if you signal a three, and your partner knows it should have been a two but doesn't say anything until the quarter break (and well after the 2-10 time period has expired), you're going to correct it anyway and just say it was a scoring error?

just another ref Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:35pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 568903)
Okay, are you saying that if you signal a three, and your partner knows it should have been a two but doesn't say anything until the quarter break (and well after the 2-10 time period has expired), you're going to correct it anyway and just say it was a scoring error?

If it is a 2, then the one official correctly makes no signal. If this official did not know at the time that his partner signaled the 3, but the question comes up later, then the 2 officials decide it was a 2, I have no problem calling this a scoring error.

But I don't think this is exactly what was suggested above.

PIAA REF Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:52pm

Sorry
 
Sorry It took me so long to get back on. Anyway we did go over this in our pregame. We said if we were 110% sure to blow the whistle and do it immidiately without talking about it. I don't think this is one of the things you get together to discuss. (IMO) If you are without a doubt sure about it. You make the call. Something we also discussed that was different in our pregame was if we missed an out of bounds call. We said that in that case we would go to the calling official and offer assistance. We would allow them to change the call.
Thanks for everyones input.

Adam Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:54pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 568950)
If it is a 2, then the one official correctly makes no signal. If this official did not know at the time that his partner signaled the 3, but the question comes up later, then the 2 officials decide it was a 2, I have no problem calling this a scoring error.

But I don't think this is exactly what was suggested above.

I have a problem with it. It's an officials error (2-10) and needs to be corrected within the time frame prescribed or not at all.

PIAA REF Thu Jan 15, 2009 01:18pm

I agree with snaqwells. If it is an officials error then it is a correctable error and needs to be corrected in the timeframe allowed. If it was signaled correctly on the court but the scorekeeper but it in the book wrong the official can correct that anytime until they approve the final score.

Raymond Thu Jan 15, 2009 01:42pm

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Originally Posted by PIAA REF (Post 568963)
Sorry It took me so long to get back on. Anyway we did go over this in our pregame. We said if we were 110% sure to blow the whistle and do it immidiately without talking about it. I don't think this is one of the things you get together to discuss. (IMO) If you are without a doubt sure about it. You make the call. Something we also discussed that was different in our pregame was if we missed an out of bounds call. We said that in that case we would go to the calling official and offer assistance. We would allow them to change the call.
Thanks for everyones input.

Well then, if you did it the way it was discussed in pre-game then your partner shouldn't have had a problem with it.

just another ref Thu Jan 15, 2009 02:38pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 568965)
I have a problem with it. It's an officials error (2-10) and needs to be corrected within the time frame prescribed or not at all.

If one official had the call right, I think that is sufficient grounds to make the correction.

Adam Thu Jan 15, 2009 02:42pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 569043)
If one official had the call right, I think that is sufficient grounds to make the correction.

There was (rightfully) no signal. Therefore, there was no call. The scorer did not make an error, the officials did.


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