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Old Mon Jan 12, 2009, 12:06am
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As a former clock operator...

When you get down to the end of the game and it is crazy in there, and I'm sitting floor level looking through 10 players, it is quite possible that I could neither hear your whistle or see your point. Especially if its in the nearside corner in front of a bench. But I will see a hand that comes up open above everyone's head.

Typical out of bounds at any point of the game, especially when its obvious the ball is out of play, what's the point? But I wouldn't say its totally unnecessary 100% of the time.
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Old Mon Jan 12, 2009, 12:08am
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As a former clock operator...

When you get down to the end of the game and it is crazy in there, and I'm sitting floor level looking through 10 players, it is quite possible that I could neither hear your whistle or see your point. Especially if its in the nearside corner in front of a bench. But I will see a hand that comes up open above everyone's head.

Typical out of bounds at any point of the game, especially when its obvious the ball is out of play, what's the point? But I wouldn't say its totally unnecessary 100% of the time.
Well said.
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Old Mon Jan 12, 2009, 12:11am
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As a former clock operator...

When you get down to the end of the game and it is crazy in there, and I'm sitting floor level looking through 10 players, it is quite possible that I could neither hear your whistle or see your point. Especially if its in the nearside corner in front of a bench. But I will see a hand that comes up open above everyone's head.

Typical out of bounds at any point of the game, especially when its obvious the ball is out of play, what's the point? But I wouldn't say its totally unnecessary 100% of the time.
Better hope I'm not working your game, then.
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As a former clock operator...

When you get down to the end of the game and it is crazy in there, and I'm sitting floor level looking through 10 players, it is quite possible that I could neither hear your whistle or see your point. Especially if its in the nearside corner in front of a bench. But I will see a hand that comes up open above everyone's head.

Typical out of bounds at any point of the game, especially when its obvious the ball is out of play, what's the point? But I wouldn't say its totally unnecessary 100% of the time.
Aren't there college arenas just as loud? Why isn't this a "problem" with them?
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Old Mon Jan 12, 2009, 12:16am
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Because college officials use Precision Timing Devices, officials stop the clock with a mic that is hooked up to the whistle and start the clock with the starter that is on their belt.
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Old Mon Jan 12, 2009, 12:21am
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Because college officials use Precision Timing Devices, officials stop the clock with a mic that is hooked up to the whistle and start the clock with the starter that is on their belt.
All colleges? Really? And they used them 10 years ago, too?

C'mon, now. The discontinuation of the stop-clock signal was way before the first Precision Time device made its debut.
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Old Mon Jan 12, 2009, 01:21am
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Because college officials use Precision Timing Devices, officials stop the clock with a mic that is hooked up to the whistle and start the clock with the starter that is on their belt.
The NCAA Tournament doesn't use PTS. Do those officials raise their hand?
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Old Mon Jan 12, 2009, 08:46am
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The NCAA Tournament doesn't use PTS. Do those officials raise their hand?
On the men's side, yes they are supposed to.
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Old Mon Jan 12, 2009, 09:01am
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On the men's side, yes they are supposed to.
Ha ha. Ha ha ha.

I have never seen a men's official do this, PT or no PT.

And in the tournament where there is no PT, I haven't seen it either. Where are all the later rounds officials coming from since I'm sure they're being punished for such a flagrant flaunting of the mechanics manual.

Ha ha ha.

Archaic, should be (officially) abolished. Rarely used with the people I work with regularly, BTW.
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Old Mon Jan 12, 2009, 10:31am
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Here's the youtube video of Welmer telling the coaches what happened... You can clearly hear someone on MSU's bench (whether it be Izzo or a player) say that they should "sit his *** in a chair at half court."

YouTube - MSU-Kansas mishap
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