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Old Tue Jan 06, 2009, 04:31pm
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eyezen, I fought this same battle on the board a little while back & got KO'd early. After re-reading POI & maybe viewing a couple of case plays you'll see they are right.
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Old Tue Jan 06, 2009, 04:35pm
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eyezen, I fought this same battle on the board a little while back & got KO'd early. After re-reading POI & maybe viewing a couple of case plays you'll see they are right.
It's not a battle. Its a civil discussion. And I could be wrong. Which case plays? I'll be more than happy to read them.
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Old Tue Jan 06, 2009, 04:40pm
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It's not a battle. Its a civil discussion. And I could be wrong. Which case plays? I'll be more than happy to read them.
Didn't mean it like that... my fault. Don't have my book but I own that rule thanks to the forum

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or if a team is entitled to such. (this could be it, but who is entitled?)
Say A1 shoots & before it's successful we have a double foul, no t/c but we wont go to the arrow, Team A scored so Team B is entitled to such.
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Old Tue Jan 06, 2009, 05:04pm
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Didn't mean it like that... my fault. Don't have my book but I own that rule thanks to the forum



Say A1 shoots & before it's successful we have a double foul, no t/c but we wont go to the arrow, Team A scored so Team B is entitled to such.
I can see that angle, but also we could say we know that the ball is still live during the shot and no TC at this point. At the moment the ball is dead, made basket by A allowed B to become entitled Satifying part b. of 4-36-2

However one could also say that once the new throw in begins ball is live and the entitlement is over.

Guys, I'm arguing just as much with myself on this one.

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Old Tue Jan 06, 2009, 05:06pm
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I can see that angle, but also we could say we know that the ball is still live during the shot and no TC at this point. At the moment the ball is dead, made basket by A allowd B to become entitled Satifying part b. of 4-36-2

However one could also say that once the new throw in begins ball is live, no TC,then whistle for the foul and ball is dead with no TC?

Guys, I'm arguing just as much with myself on this one.
You're right, the made basket is the entitlement.

"During a throwin"....

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Old Tue Jan 06, 2009, 05:14pm
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You're right, the made basket is the entitlement.

"During a throwin"....

Never mind.
Never mind what?

I'm trying to learn here.

"Play shall be resumed by one of the following methods. b) A free throw or throw in when the interruption occurred during this activity or if a team is entitled to such."

The first part of B tells me how (In OP the throw in was interupted during a throw in, so we restart with a throw in, nothing more nothing less)

The second part tells who if there is entitlement. I am making the case that A's entitlement is over once the ball becomes live.

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Old Tue Jan 06, 2009, 05:15pm
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Never mind what?
I quit. I'll let you argue with yourself. I have a game to go to.
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Old Tue Jan 06, 2009, 05:30pm
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The second part tells who if there is entitlement. I am making the case that A's entitlement is over once the ball becomes live.
A's entitlement doesn't end until the throw-in ends (legally or by A's violation). They're entitled to a throw-in, not merely to a live ball.
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