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Old Thu Jan 01, 2009, 12:47pm
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Clean This One Up ?

i show up for the last 2 games of the local Holiday Classic. Tourneys been going on for 67 million years or so. It's a fun little tourney and i try to make the last couple of games every year.

In the 5th/6th place game they had the following sitch.

The Home team takes a time out. After the time out they apparently put 6 players on the court. Neither official catches it. They make a three. They then steal the inbounds and make another three. Then they steal the ball again and make a lay-up. At this point the refs catch that they have 6 players on the court...

Any thoughts on the clean up. The refs came up with take the points off the board and issued a T for 6 players on the court.

My thinking is the points count, shoot the T, and eat the grief.

What say you ?
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Old Thu Jan 01, 2009, 12:53pm
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i show up for the last 2 games of the local Holiday Classic. Tourneys been going on for 67 million years or so. It's a fun little tourney and i try to make the last couple of games every year.

In the 5th/6th place game they had the following sitch.

The Home team takes a time out. After the time out they apparently put 6 players on the court. Neither official catches it. They make a three. They then steal the inbounds and make another three. Then they steal the ball again and make a lay-up. At this point the refs catch that they have 6 players on the court...

Any thoughts on the clean up. The refs came up with take the points off the board and issued a T for 6 players on the court.

My thinking is the points count, shoot the T, and eat the grief.

What say you ?
What say you?

You should have been on the crew.
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Old Thu Jan 01, 2009, 12:54pm
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Old Thu Jan 01, 2009, 12:56pm
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Tourneys been going on for 67 million years or so.

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I say we need to ask MTD, Mark, and Jurrasic what the first game was like!
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Old Thu Jan 01, 2009, 12:58pm
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You should have been on the crew.
Thats what I try and tell the assignor. But he believes he knows what he is doing.

No seriously that level of game is probably a little out of my reach at this point. But I am a pretty competent Girls Varsity ref.
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Old Thu Jan 01, 2009, 12:58pm
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i show up for the last 2 games of the local Holiday Classic. Tourneys been going on for 67 million years or so. It's a fun little tourney and i try to make the last couple of games every year.

In the 5th/6th place game they had the following sitch.

The Home team takes a time out. After the time out they apparently put 6 players on the court. Neither official catches it. They make a three. They then steal the inbounds and make another three. Then they steal the ball again and make a lay-up. At this point the refs catch that they have 6 players on the court...

Any thoughts on the clean up. The refs came up with take the points off the board and issued a T for 6 players on the court.

My thinking is the points count, shoot the T, and eat the grief.

What say you ?
That's all you can do. My guess is that crew will, and should, have to eat a lot of grief.
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Old Thu Jan 01, 2009, 01:03pm
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Points count, shoot the T. Nothing supports taking points off the board; penalized when recognized.
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Points count, shoot the T. Nothing supports taking points off the board; penalized when recognized.
Exactly; if they didn't see it earlier, they had no idea the player had been in there the whole time. For all the officials know, the player came out after the last layup.

I could see making this video reviewable at the appropriate levels (NCAA and NBA) and allowing the officials to cancel the points scored by the offending team.
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This is the same situation that happened in the Portland - Boston NBA game the other night (see appropriate thread). Everything that happens before the violation is discovered counts. Of course, the Blazer TV commentators got it wrong.

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Old Thu Jan 01, 2009, 03:29pm
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Thats what I try and tell the assignor. But he believes he knows what he is doing.

No seriously that level of game is probably a little out of my reach at this point. But I am a pretty competent Girls Varsity ref.
If you're a competent girls ref, you're a competent boys ref. Don't want to hijack thread but that's just not true.
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Old Thu Jan 01, 2009, 03:44pm
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If you're a competent girls ref, you're a competent boys ref. Don't want to hijack thread but that's just not true.
And whether you are a competent Girl's Official or not, is not the point in the first place. This was obviously lesser experienced (or not very good) officials that misapplied the rule in this situation.

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Old Thu Jan 01, 2009, 04:12pm
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I am Curly, for the obvious connection, .

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