Clean This One Up ?

[Chess Ref]

i show up for the last 2 games of the local Holiday Classic. Tourneys been going on for 67 million years or so. It's a fun little tourney and i try to make the last couple of games every year.

In the 5th/6th place game they had the following sitch.

The Home team takes a time out. After the time out they apparently put 6 players on the court. Neither official catches it. They make a three. They then steal the inbounds and make another three. Then they steal the ball again and make a lay-up. At this point the refs catch that they have 6 players on the court...

Any thoughts on the clean up. The refs came up with take the points off the board and issued a T for 6 players on the court.

My thinking is the points count, shoot the T, and eat the grief.

What say you ?

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

i show up for the last 2 games of the local Holiday Classic. Tourneys been going on for 67 million years or so. It's a fun little tourney and i try to make the last couple of games every year.

In the 5th/6th place game they had the following sitch.

The Home team takes a time out. After the time out they apparently put 6 players on the court. Neither official catches it. They make a three. They then steal the inbounds and make another three. Then they steal the ball again and make a lay-up. At this point the refs catch that they have 6 players on the court...

Any thoughts on the clean up. The refs came up with take the points off the board and issued a T for 6 players on the court.

My thinking is the points count, shoot the T, and eat the grief.

What say you ?

What say you?

You should have been on the crew.

[Chess Ref]

Originally Posted by fullor30

What say you?

You should have been on the crew.

Thats what I try and tell the assignor. But he believes he knows what he is doing.

No seriously that level of game is probably a little out of my reach at this point. But I am a pretty competent Girls Varsity ref.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

Thats what I try and tell the assignor. But he believes he knows what he is doing.

No seriously that level of game is probably a little out of my reach at this point. But I am a pretty competent Girls Varsity ref.

If you're a competent girls ref, you're a competent boys ref. Don't want to hijack thread but that's just not true.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by fullor30

If you're a competent girls ref, you're a competent boys ref. Don't want to hijack thread but that's just not true.

And whether you are a competent Girl's Official or not, is not the point in the first place. This was obviously lesser experienced (or not very good) officials that misapplied the rule in this situation.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by fullor30

If you're a competent girls ref, you're a competent boys ref. Don't want to hijack thread but that's just not true.

Three words:
tongue in cheek

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Three words:
tongue in cheek

Not mine........

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by fullor30

If you're a competent girls ref, you're a competent boys ref. Don't want to hijack thread but that's just not true.

I find the average boys game easier to officiate than the average girls game.
jmo

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by fullor30

If you're a competent girls ref, you're a competent boys ref.

I have to disagree in general with this thought.

In most cases the boys games involve more physical play, are faster, and often have action above the rim. Officiating those aspects of the game can be rather challenging and perhaps beyond someone who is a "competent girls ref." That same person may not have the foot-speed, a comfort with physical, aggressive action, or the necessary skills or knowledge to properly judge GT/BI and high-flying plays near the rim. It's definitely possible that a person who does mostly girls games has not cultivated these aspects of his/her officiating and consequently would not do a quality job on a boys game which involved those things.

Of course, this person could be just fine on a boys game that doesn't include that kind of action.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I have to disagree in general with this thought.

In most cases the boys games involve more physical play, are faster, and often have action above the rim. Officiating those aspects of the game can be rather challenging and perhaps beyond someone who is a "competent girls ref." That same person may not have the foot-speed, a comfort with physical, aggressive action, or the necessary skills or knowledge to properly judge GT/BI and high-flying plays near the rim. It's definitely possible that a person who does mostly girls games has not cultivated these aspects of his/her officiating and consequently would not do a quality job on a boys game which involved those things.

Of course, this person could be just fine on a boys game that doesn't include that kind of action.

Why is it I'm perfectly fine with any kind of boys game but uncomfortable after working a girls game where there are 26 held balls and most of the game involves 8 players diving on the floor for loose balls accompanied by people screaming "You have to call SOMETHING!"?

[referee99]

I say you are correct. Plain and simple.

[muxbule]

Points count, shoot the T. Nothing supports taking points off the board; penalized when recognized.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by muxbule

Points count, shoot the T. Nothing supports taking points off the board; penalized when recognized.

Exactly; if they didn't see it earlier, they had no idea the player had been in there the whole time. For all the officials know, the player came out after the last layup.

I could see making this video reviewable at the appropriate levels (NCAA and NBA) and allowing the officials to cancel the points scored by the offending team.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

Tourneys been going on for 67 million years or so.

What say you ?

I say we need to ask MTD, Mark, and Jurrasic what the first game was like!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by grunewar

I say we need to ask MTD, Mark, and Jurrasic what the first game was like!

Also known as Moe, Larry, and Curly?