Clean This One Up ?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by fullor30

If you're a competent girls ref, you're a competent boys ref. Don't want to hijack thread but that's just not true.

I find the average boys game easier to officiate than the average girls game.
jmo

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by fullor30

If you're a competent girls ref, you're a competent boys ref.

I have to disagree in general with this thought.

In most cases the boys games involve more physical play, are faster, and often have action above the rim. Officiating those aspects of the game can be rather challenging and perhaps beyond someone who is a "competent girls ref." That same person may not have the foot-speed, a comfort with physical, aggressive action, or the necessary skills or knowledge to properly judge GT/BI and high-flying plays near the rim. It's definitely possible that a person who does mostly girls games has not cultivated these aspects of his/her officiating and consequently would not do a quality job on a boys game which involved those things.

Of course, this person could be just fine on a boys game that doesn't include that kind of action.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

i show up for the last 2 games of the local Holiday Classic. Tourneys been going on for 67 million years or so. It's a fun little tourney and i try to make the last couple of games every year.

In the 5th/6th place game they had the following sitch.

The Home team takes a time out. After the time out they apparently put 6 players on the court. Neither official catches it. They make a three. They then steal the inbounds and make another three. Then they steal the ball again and make a lay-up. At this point the refs catch that they have 6 players on the court...

Any thoughts on the clean up. The refs came up with take the points off the board and issued a T for 6 players on the court.

My thinking is the points count, shoot the T, and eat the grief.

What say you ?

You are right. Of course, you already knew that.

This is yet another example of people with poor rules knowledge getting assignments. It is absolutely imperative that at least one member of a varsity crew have a solid understanding of the rules.

It is my opinion that those three individuals embarrassed your officiating association with their handling of that situation. Very sad.

Keep working hard, and it won't be long before you begin being assigned to such games in favor of these folks.

[GoodwillRef]

This is the second post in the last week about a team having 6 players on the court...I suggest we add some math questions to the 2009-2010 NFHS Basketball Test.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

This is the second post in the last week about a team having 6 players on the court...I suggest we add some math questions to the 2009-2010 NFHS Basketball Test.

How about something clear and unambiguous like we're used to like:

T/F - An official shall, might, may, will halt play and assess a technical foul to the offending team when the official notices a team has six players on the court during a live ball (or it is brought to their attention by a player, coach, table personnel, or an irate fan or parent). All points shall, might, may, will be erased (no matter how much time has elapsed and how many points are scored). Television monitors and private camcorders are allowed to be used to review the situation.

T/F - If an official misses counting six players on the court and allows play to continue, he/she is subject to public scorn and ridicule.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by grunewar

How about something clear and unambiguous like we're used to like:

T/F - An official shall, might, may, will halt play and assess a technical foul to the offending team when the official notices a team has six players on the court during a live ball (or it is brought to their attention by a player, coach, table personnel, or an irate fan or parent). All points shall, might, may, will be erased (no matter how much time has elapsed and how many points are scored). Television monitors and private camcorders are allowed to be used to review the situation.

T/F - If an official misses counting six players on the court and allows play to continue, he/she is subject to public scorn and ridicule.

Nice...very nice...what about pictures or videos from personal cell phones?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I have to disagree in general with this thought.

In most cases the boys games involve more physical play, are faster, and often have action above the rim. Officiating those aspects of the game can be rather challenging and perhaps beyond someone who is a "competent girls ref." That same person may not have the foot-speed, a comfort with physical, aggressive action, or the necessary skills or knowledge to properly judge GT/BI and high-flying plays near the rim. It's definitely possible that a person who does mostly girls games has not cultivated these aspects of his/her officiating and consequently would not do a quality job on a boys game which involved those things.

Of course, this person could be just fine on a boys game that doesn't include that kind of action.

Why is it I'm perfectly fine with any kind of boys game but uncomfortable after working a girls game where there are 26 held balls and most of the game involves 8 players diving on the floor for loose balls accompanied by people screaming "You have to call SOMETHING!"?

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Why is it I'm perfectly fine with any kind of boys game but uncomfortable after working a girls game where there are 26 held balls and most of the game involves 8 players diving on the floor for loose balls accompanied by people screaming "You have to call SOMETHING!"?

Because you live in the middle of Wisconsin, and we all know that is huge area for great girls high school basketball!