Questionable T?

[Kelvin green]

[QUOTE=Terrapins Fan;563042]I'd love to post this anonymously, but I'll take the blame here.

I hear #10 say something to the effect about "bringing that soft a$$ something something," but I can make it out real well because she is wearing a mouth guard. QUOTE]

Here is my opinion for what its worth... (even if this is not a big deal) If you hear something like this walk up to the player and tell them to knock the garbage off and play... The opponent will see you are adressing it so it does not escalate-- Coaches may even ask you what she did... Even if it did not warrant a T prevent officiating here will go along way...

Use the captain and tell the capatin that #10 is getting mouthy...

Use the coach and have the coach get the player under control...

[Bad Zebra]

What am I missing here? I can't understand the debate about warnings or talking to the coach or captains. If you heard the word "a$$" come out of her mouth...WHACK! T will be served®. It's profanity and the rule couldn't be clearer. It doesn't matter what the context was or what garbled words followed. Seems pretty cut and dried to me.

Any tolerance only teaches the player that he or she can get away next time with a warning too.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

What am I missing here? I can't understand the debate about warnings or talking to the coach or captains. If you heard the word "a$$" come out of her mouth...WHACK! T will be served. It's profanity and the rule couldn't be clearer. It doesn't matter what the context was or what garbled words followed. Seems pretty cut and dried to me.

Any tolerance only teaches the player that he or she can get away next time with a warning too.

I concur with the general sentiment of your post, but I have to disagree with your specific statement that this word is profanity.


White #10 to her nearby teammate: "Oh, I think I just bruised my a$$ taking that charge."

White #10 to a nearby official: "I hate it when my dad yells from the stands. He makes such an a$$ of himself that it's embarrassing."

Do you have a T in both of these situations?

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Really? I don't agree.

White #10 to her nearby teammate: "Oh, I think I just bruised my a$$ taking that charge."

White #10 to a nearby official: "I hate it when my dad yells from the stands. He makes such an a$$ of himself that it's embarrassing."

Do you have a T in both of these situations?

In the first case maybe not. In the second, why would a player express her feelings using a cuss word to an official? Doesn't seem likely.

In neither of those examples did the conversation take place within the scope of the game. I think the original sitch did and seemed like an attempt at taunting on top of using profanity.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

In the first case maybe not. In the second, why would a player express her feelings using a cuss word to an official? Doesn't seem likely.

In neither of those examples did the conversation take place within the scope of the game. I think the original sitch did and seemed like an attempt at taunting on top of using profanity.

And that is why a T is appropriate in the given situation.

You know that a player addressed an opponent in an unsporting manner. The use of certain words is indicative of that, but not in and of itself the offense.

I would counsel you to refrain from putting your individual opinion of what words are appropriate and which are not into your decisions. There are clearly some that are obvious, but there are far more that are not. When it comes to judging language, it is better to operate within widely accepted parameters.

[Bishopcolle]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

What am I missing here? I can't understand the debate about warnings or talking to the coach or captains. If you heard the word "a$$" come out of her mouth...WHACK! T will be served®. It's profanity and the rule couldn't be clearer. It doesn't matter what the context was or what garbled words followed. Seems pretty cut and dried to me.

Any tolerance only teaches the player that he or she can get away next time with a warning too.

I agree, T...but be careful with the phrase "profanity." An English teacher/Varsity Coach taught me the difference between vulgarity and profanity...there is a difference, and I had it wrong.....