talking coaches

[beachbum]

some coaches are constantly yapping about something all during the game. "you missed that call, watch the three seconds, their hacking us..etc.

After listening to a coach call out " three seconds" about 25 times, (BJV) at an opportune time I said "coach, if all i watch for out there is three seconds then I'm going to miss other plays or fouls, now sit down and coach your team"he did shut up, but i wasn't sure if i should have said anything.

One official I work with would tell them that what they are doing is unsportman like conduct and that was their warning.

what do all of the pros say????

[ma_ref]

I say you let him call out "three seconds" 23 or 24 times too many before warning him...

When coaches do this, I tell them I'm watching the lane, but each time they yell out "3 seconds", I lose track of the count in my head and have to start over at 0. That gets them to quiet down pretty quick.

[BBall_Junkie]

MY opinion... do not ever tell a coach to sit down and coach his team. This is only going to throw fuel on the fire in most cases. Much more good can be done by trying to talk the coach off the ledge with your people skills.

[zebraman]

First of all, I am not a pro, but I will weigh in anyway.

I don't think that telling a coach to "sit down and coach" is a very good response. That will get them mad almost every time and sounds disrespectful.

Maybe something like, "coach, you are asking for so many calls that you are distracting my crew."

[Terrapins Fan]

Originally Posted by ma_ref

I say you let him call out "three seconds" 23 or 24 times too many before warning him...

When coaches do this, I tell them I'm watching the lane, but each time they yell out "3 seconds", I lose track of the count in my head and have to start over at 0. That gets them to quiet down pretty quick.

Great line, I am going to star to use that.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by beachbum

now sit down and coach your team"

Whatever you say, the last part of your phrase (quoted above) in inappropriate.

I usually start with "we'll watch for it."

Then, I do so. If I see something that's "close" but doesn't warrant a call, I'll tell the coach that next time down (e.g., "she moves out" or "he's allowed to try for a goal.")

If the coach then continues, I go to "coach, we've heard you and we're looking for it. That's enough."

Continued comments get a formal warning and then a whack.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Whatever you say, the last part of your phrase (quoted above) in inappropriate.

I usually start with "we'll watch for it."

Then, I do so. If I see something that's "close" but doesn't warrant a call, I'll tell the coach that next time down (e.g., "she moves out" or "he's allowed to try for a goal.")

If the coach then continues, I go to "coach, we've heard you and we're looking for it. That's enough."

Continued comments get a formal warning and then a whack.

I disagree a little bit. I think the "Sit Down" part was worse than to say, "Coach your team."

I think you can make comments to coaches (and should) that they are there to coach the game and not help you or officiate the game. A better phrase might be, "At some point you need to start coaching and let us do our job." And saying to all coaches, "I will watch for it" does not work. The standard, "I will look for it" does not always work anymore. Coaches then usually get more of a smart a$$ when you give them that kind of response.

Honestly I have learned you can say a lot of different things if you know how to deliver the comments or if you have the right body language.

Peace

[beachbum]

i like that responce too

[beachbum]

I guess being newer, I shouldn't have told the coach to sit down, but now I know.

But, how do the pro's handle a coach the kind of follows you, as you are running down he sidline, asking or telling the same type of things?

Originally Posted by beachbum

But, how do the pro's handle a coach the kind of follows you, as you are running down he sidline, asking or telling the same type of things?

Not sure if any of those 61 post here.

Give stop sign when you've had enough, let your partner & anybody within earshot know that coach has been warned. If he continues, whack him & have your partner sit him down. If coach still doesnt get it, send him to the showers early. Coaches/players are like children, they will do what you allow them to do & oh yeah, some like to see how far they can go.

[btaylor64]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

Not sure if any of those 61 post here.

Give stop sign when you've had enough, let your partner & anybody within earshot know that coach has been warned. If he continues, whack him & have your partner sit him down. If coach still doesnt get it, send him to the showers early. Coaches/players are like children, they will do what you allow them to do & oh yeah, some like to see how far they can go.

Well I can tell you that those "61" you refer to absolutely DO NOT give the stop sign. The stop sign induces conflict it does not resolve conflict. We are there to diffuse the conflict and the quicker that we all learn that we don't try to win or that we don't try to "zing" the coach with a one liner and instead act professionally then we all win and there will never be any calls to our supervisors for things we said.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

Well I can tell you that those "61" you refer to absolutely DO NOT give the stop sign. The stop sign induces conflict it does not resolve conflict. We are there to diffuse the conflict and the quicker that we all learn that we don't try to win or that we don't try to "zing" the coach with a one liner and instead act professionally then we all win and there will never be any calls to our supervisors for things we said.

I agree with this whole heartedly.

Originally Posted by btaylor64

Well I can tell you that those "61" you refer to absolutely DO NOT give the stop sign. The stop sign induces conflict it does not resolve conflict. We are there to diffuse the conflict and the quicker that we all learn that we don't try to win or that we don't try to "zing" the coach with a one liner and instead act professionally then we all win and there will never be any calls to our supervisors for things we said.

I hear exactly what you're saying, but how we use the stop sign has a lot to do with escalating or difusing situations. I would never put it directly in a coaches face, nor fully extended. More calm & collective, about chest high & closer to my body than theirs.

That being said, after 3 weeks of varsity games I haven't had to use it at all. Don't know if it's my presence or their familiarity, but coaches aren't questioning me much so far.
Oh wait a minute, it's non-conference time

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

I hear exactly what you're saying, but how we use the stop sign has a lot to do with escalating or difusing situations. I would never put it directly in a coaches face, nor fully extended. More calm & collective, about chest high & closer to my body than theirs.

That being said, after 3 weeks of varsity games I haven't had to use it at all. Don't know if it's my presence or their familiarity, but coaches aren't questioning me much so far.
Oh wait a minute, it's non-conference time

My partners and I were talking the other night about this. Coaches this year have been well behaved and focussed on coaching. I've only had to answer a few questions so far, and no coach has even come close to getting out of hand.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

Well I can tell you that those "61" you refer to absolutely DO NOT give the stop sign. The stop sign induces conflict it does not resolve conflict. We are there to diffuse the conflict and the quicker that we all learn that we don't try to win or that we don't try to "zing" the coach with a one liner and instead act professionally then we all win and there will never be any calls to our supervisors for things we said.

This is my favorite post in this thread. Many members who have been around a while know how I feel about the stop sign and this is partly why. The other reason is officials talk about it as if it is all powerful.

I also agree that we shouldn't be looking for one-liners so we can be smart with our responses. Coaches are people and they are passionate about winning their games. I would like to think I can talk to them like a human being and not get all upset. However, when the time comes a T is earned.