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Old Mon Dec 22, 2008, 10:57pm
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They say all three points - both feet and ball - in this case the ball was never dribbled in FC.

To all of those who work 3-man: are you ok with the C calling a B/C violation?
1. You might want to rethink that statement... you're not correct here.
2. Of course the C should call it.. often, in a press situation the C is right on the division line when this happens.
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Old Tue Dec 23, 2008, 01:07am
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Re-think which statement?

It was a B/C violation. I worded it wrong from the get-go. The problem was the T could not completely see the play and the C was right on it. However, the C told the T it was his line.
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Old Tue Dec 23, 2008, 08:49am
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My motto: "Call whatever you want in my area. Just make sure you are correct."

Everything else is noise and ego.
I disagree, but we've had this discussion dozens of times.
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Old Tue Dec 23, 2008, 09:03am
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Re-think which statement?
He's just saying to rethink your "all three points" statement since it is in no way germane to this situation because the player wasn't dribbling.

If you knew it was a B/C violation, why did you include that statement?
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Old Tue Dec 23, 2008, 09:08am
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The T is deep in the backcourt with the A1 (who as the ball) and B1.

A1 fires a baseball pass to A2 who is near the division line. A2 catches it with one foot in F/C and the other in B/C. A2 lifts foot in B/C and gets stuck an then throws to A3 who is in the B/C.

The T is way behind the play and as trouble seeing it. First, is this a violation and second is it o.k. for C to call this?
Not only is it "o.k.", it's expected for C to call this.
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Old Tue Dec 23, 2008, 10:29am
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Is the C located somewhere near the division line or at the division line with a 100% high certainty look? .
Can someone define 100% high certainty to me?

Contradiction in terms imo.
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Old Tue Dec 23, 2008, 10:51am
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Not only is it "o.k.", it's expected for C to call this.
This has a 100% high certainty of being correct. This has been discussed in other threads and as stated before, the Officials Manual gives provisions for transition. 3.3.5 C(2) states that the C is responsible for fouls and violations between top of the circle in the backcourt to top of the circle in front court. And I take this to mean sideline to sideline.

Once the transition is over (ball in the frontcourt) cover your PCA.
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Old Tue Dec 23, 2008, 11:58am
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He's just saying to rethink your "all three points" statement since it is in no way germane to this situation because the player wasn't dribbling.

If you knew it was a B/C violation, why did you include that statement?
Written poorly ... meant to to suggest that T had a tough look at a play and was not sure if it was B/C violation. THANKS!
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Old Tue Dec 23, 2008, 01:04pm
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Written poorly ... meant to to suggest that T had a tough look at a play and was not sure if it was B/C violation. THANKS!
Gotcha...makes sense to me now!
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Old Tue Dec 23, 2008, 02:01pm
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All the 3-man that I've worked, this is the C's call. The C should be near mid-court at this point since there is ball pressure. Unless the ball is within 5 (or so) feet of the division line, this should be C's call. If the ball handler is within 5 (or so) feet of the division line, I guess the T could call it as well. my (Corrected) $0.02

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Old Tue Dec 23, 2008, 03:05pm
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All the 3-man that I've worked, this is the C's call. The C should be near mid-court at this point since there is ball pressure. Unless the ball is within 5 (or so) feet of the division line, should this be T's call. my $0.02

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The ball has to be pretty close to the division line; it's a backcourt violation.
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Old Tue Dec 23, 2008, 04:14pm
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The ball has to be pretty close to the division line; it's a backcourt violation.
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Now I screwed it up...I will fix it..Thanks Snaq

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