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Old Sun Dec 21, 2008, 10:22pm
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Case book back me up?

I'm coaching a 6th grade CYO team today.

Couple of minutes into the game I have a sub report, they come in and play, have a foul called against them. Come to find they are not in the book.

Referee comes over and discusses with our parent volunteers at the table. I say I submitted my list of players (it was on the table) he says the player is not in the book, so we have a technical.

As he was going to administer I suggested he would need to check his case book when he got home. Later I was thinking, I don't know if the case book supports me here.
I know that if I were officiating, I would look at the submitted list and if the player was properly submitted I would not issue the technical.

Anyways, kid misses both throws, no biggie. I don't know that he has a case book! He called traveling on a throw in, did a redo on a throw-in which did not make it onto the court (I BLAME SOCCER!) and a couple of other goodies. Overall it was all good and the older and younger officials did a good job. We lost by a couple cuz we could not make a shot to save our lives.

Does the case book support no Administrative Technical if submitted lineup is accurate and in the copying the scorekeeper omitted a player?
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Old Sun Dec 21, 2008, 10:31pm
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The rule states,

A team shall not:
Fail to supply the scorer with the name and number of each team member who may participate and designate the five starting players at least 10 minutes before the scheduled starting time. (10-1-1)

It's not a T and not the coach's fault if the scorer doesn't write it in the book.

There is no case play that addresses it.
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Old Sun Dec 21, 2008, 10:45pm
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I have a partner who, when he checks the book, he has the HC sign the book signifying he has checked it and all is in order. I don't do that, but I do see where it could prevent some problems like this one.
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Old Sun Dec 21, 2008, 10:46pm
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The rule states,

A team shall not:
Fail to supply the scorer with the name and number of each team member who may participate and designate the five starting players at least 10 minutes before the scheduled starting time. (10-1-1)

It's not a T and not the coach's fault if the scorer doesn't write it in the book.

There is no case play that addresses it.
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The rule is that its T, however, at that level of play if it can be fixed quickly and the coach is not whining or being a jerk then we're going to do it and keep playing.
BktBallRef is correct. refnrev is not.
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Old Sun Dec 21, 2008, 10:57pm
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That might be why you see the post you quoted was quickly deleted when I reread it.
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